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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 12:24 AM
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F250 SD Crew Cab does not start

Does anyone have pictures where the CKP sensor is located. i have take it apart on the pasenger side through the wheel well but i cant find the sensor where the haines manual says its at. Any help

I need some help with my 6.0 2004 f250 Power Stroke. It started acting up upon start. It finally started and ran rough until it warmed up. It shows the check engine light so i took it to get tested and came back with the following codes:
p2617 crankshaft position out
p2614 camshaft position out
p0261 cylinder 1 injector low
p0264 cylinder 2 injector low
p0267 cylinder 3 injector low
p0270 cylinder 4 injector low
p0273 cylinder 5 injector low
p0276 cylinder 6 injector low
p0279 cylinder 7 injector low
p0282 cylinder 8 injector low

then i left it alone for about a week and did not run it i went back to it and now it does not start. it turns over but no start.
I replaced the following:
both of the fuel filters. no luck
The camshaft positioner sensor no luck
I am about to replace the CKP sensor but i can not find it i read on the HANES manual for this truck but it has very limmited info. I have read online but i still cant determine the location and how it looks like. Some say it is behind the air compresor but i am having difficulties removing the compressor. Any help or any pictures would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 07:24 AM
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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I don't think it's your crank/cam position sensors. I think it's a FICM problem. I would wait for a Tech to weigh in here, because of the two cks/cmps codes and the list of injector failure codes, and it may be the crank sensor since it has to be read first for the PCM and FICM to sync. You can try replacing the CKS and it may fire right up. Check the tech folder for FICM operation and diagnostics and it may help you.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 09:17 AM
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You need a FICM, there is no way all the coils and wiring are bad for each injector. The cam and crank codes are probably related to a stall event. Hopefully you are under warranty otherwise you are looking at about $1000.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 10:22 PM
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Does anyone have pictures where the CKP sensor is located. i have take it apart on the pasenger side through the wheel well but i cant find the sensor where the haines manual says its at. Any help

I need some help with my 6.0 2004 f250 Power Stroke. It started acting up upon start. It finally started and ran rough until it warmed up. It shows the check engine light so i took it to get tested and came back with the following codes:
p2617 crankshaft position out
p2614 camshaft position out
p0261 cylinder 1 injector low
p0264 cylinder 2 injector low
p0267 cylinder 3 injector low
p0270 cylinder 4 injector low
p0273 cylinder 5 injector low
p0276 cylinder 6 injector low
p0279 cylinder 7 injector low
p0282 cylinder 8 injector low

then i left it alone for about a week and did not run it i went back to it and now it does not start. it turns over but no start.
I replaced the following:
both of the fuel filters. no luck
The camshaft positioner sensor no luck
I am about to replace the CKP sensor but i can not find it i read on the HANES manual for this truck but it has very limmited info. I have read online but i still cant determine the location and how it looks like. Some say it is behind the air compresor but i am having difficulties removing the compressor. Any help or any pictures would be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Leo
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Old Dec 23, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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First - I think (as others said) it is more likely to be the FICM and not the CKP.

Now to your questions:

<TABLE style="WIDTH: 677pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=903 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 677pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 31904" width=903><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.65pt" height=21><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff99; WIDTH: 677pt; HEIGHT: 15.65pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl27 height=21 width=903 x:str="Crank Shaft Position Sensor (CKP) ">Crank Shaft Position Sensor (CKP) </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.9pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff99; WIDTH: 677pt; HEIGHT: 12.9pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl24 height=17 width=903>https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/album.php?albumid=1996&pictureid=15905</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.9pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff99; WIDTH: 677pt; HEIGHT: 12.9pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl24 height=17 width=903>https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/album.php?albumid=1996&pictureid=15906</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.9pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff99; WIDTH: 677pt; HEIGHT: 12.9pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl24 height=17 width=903>http://dan.prxy.org/Truck/6L_bible_html/html/Page_052.html</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.9pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff99; WIDTH: 677pt; HEIGHT: 12.9pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl25 height=17 width=903 x:str="If You are within a couple of tenths of that reading then you are ok. If you're getting a RPM signal, then the crank sensor is probably working. ">If You are within a couple of tenths of that reading then you are ok. If you're getting a RPM signal, then the crank sensor is probably working. </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 131.8pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=176><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff99; WIDTH: 677pt; HEIGHT: 131.8pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl25 height=176 width=903>If anyone ever decides to change their CKP sensor, it is tough. Because it is hard to get to, it could take hours. You might want to consider renting someone with long, skinny arms and skinny hands.

The sensor itself rarely fails. The connector itself seems to fail more than the sensor.

Located underneath the A/C compressor. It is very hard to get to. You need long skinny arms for the job. FYI - it is easier to unplug the sensor with it in the hole. I have not done it personally, but I have read that a 16" ratchet extension and a pivoting adapter will get you to the bolt holding the sensor in.

I have also read about some folks removing the A/C compressor to access it more easily, but it really is a lot more work that way AND one bolt is at a horrible angle, so if you do .......... BE CAREFUL not to strip it.
</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.6pt" height=18><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffff99; WIDTH: 677pt; HEIGHT: 13.6pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl26 height=18 width=903>Crankshaft sensors rarely fail. Check for wire chafing</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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Odd post, no? 3.5 months after the exact same first post?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 09:15 AM
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ITS A BEEEOOTCH

BEHIND THE A/C COMPRESOR. IT IS WAAAYYY EASIER TO TEST YOUR FICM, AND THAT IS, MORE THAN LIKELY, THE PROBLEM. WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED? IF IN WI. BY CHANCE, GIVE ME A CALL. 1-920-265-9437, MATT
 
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ckp,cmp faults in can be user set. there is a crank engine method that sets that. something like crank 10x with a nostart. I would need to go back and look that up. But if you are chasing the cmp,ckp issue first you are headed down the wrong path.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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I also agree with the above FICM is a sure bet.
 
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