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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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Found an NP435 finally

Recently picked up an 82 f150, shortbed, stepside with a 300 and a SROD 4 speed. The SROD is bad and currently not in the truck. I had another forum going the other week about the swap to an NP435. I just had one last question, from everything I was reading it looks like the NP435 will bolt up to my NP208 transfer case, but I just wanted to make sure, will it bolt up to the NP208 ok? If everything looks good, I'll pick up this tranny soon and start the swap

Also looked up my axle code, H62, apparently its limited slip front and rear with 3.5 gears. I have 33x12.5's on the truck right now, I'm hoping it will turn em ok.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 03:10 PM
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All of these trucks share the same transfer case to adapter bolt patterns, so you are fin there. Since it is a 4 speed, you wont have u-joint clearance issues. (autos are a diffrent story of the 205 case is used.)

Anyway, since you will have some driveshaft mods to make anyway, is there a reason why you would want to keep the aluminum 208? Other than having a better low range ratio is this the case that you want to keep?
Most of the time these swapa also include the installation of the desirable and bullet proof Np205.
You could kill several birds with one stone here.

I only mentioned driveshaft mods because I speculate that the transmission dimensions are diffrent. I have no clue and no data. I might be full of hot air, but If I were upgrading for strength, I might consider the 205 as well.

You will love the supoerior ratios of the 435.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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33s, 3.5s and the 1:1 4th of the NP435 should be fine up to 95 mph where you will hit 3385 rpm, just short of redline.

At 65 you will turn 2316, just about right.

The low first will cover you for hills and loads, but most of the time you will do 2nd gear starts.

I'd rather have the Mazda 5 speed for road and light loads, but would much rather have the NP435 for your set up over the SROD.

Good luck with it.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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Anyway, since you will have some driveshaft mods to make anyway, is there a reason why you would want to keep the aluminum 208? Other than having a better low range ratio is this the case that you want to keep?
Most of the time these swapa also include the installation of the desirable and bullet proof Np205.
You could kill several birds with one stone here.

I only mentioned driveshaft mods because I speculate that the transmission dimensions are diffrent. I have no clue and no data. I might be full of hot air, but If I were upgrading for strength, I might consider the 205 as well.

You will love the supoerior ratios of the 435.
I am on a tight budget, I am not sure what transfer case it is bolted to, I can take a look when I go pick it up. The truck its coming out of is an 87. Do you know if there would be any crossmember modification needed?

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33s, 3.5s and the 1:1 4th of the NP435 should be fine up to 95 mph where you will hit 3385 rpm, just short of redline.

At 65 you will turn 2316, just about right.

The low first will cover you for hills and loads, but most of the time you will do 2nd gear starts.
That's some precise input! I am mainly gonna use the truck as a light trail rig, but I still want to be able to drive to and from trails easily.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 05:10 PM
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It'll work as long as it's from a 4x4 truck, and comes with the correct bellhousing. The 2wd NP435s of course did not have an adapter to bolt to the transfer case.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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It'll work as long as it's from a 4x4 truck, and comes with the correct bellhousing. The 2wd NP435s of course did not have an adapter to bolt to the transfer case.
It's from a 4x4 so we are in good shape there! Just have to settle on a price with this guy and then I'll go pick it up. One quick question, how do you tell the difference between an np205 and an np203 if they don't have the tags on them?

I started looking for an np205 t case after it was mentioned I might want to swap that in as well. I found one on craigs but the guy isn't sure what it is as it doesn't have a tag on it.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 12:48 AM
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Np203:

Notice the huge rear output shaft section. This is where the differential is located.



Np205:

Notice the small output section on the rear.



Tags are difficult to remove. They do not exactly fall off, so scrape around and find them. Chances are that they are still there.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 07:06 PM
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They made the 205 and 203 for Chevy and Dodge as well, those both drop on the wrong side.
I never broke my 208 with a built 300, auto, and 35s, so you should be ok. What killed mine was miles, it wore through the shift collar, snagged the snap ring, and shot it out the side of the case while doing 65 towing a trailer. Not a fun day, got to change cases in a rest stop in Michigan City, IN. and the only junkyard in town charged me $175 for the new one.
If you replace the hi-low shift fork you won't have this problem.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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Thanks for the info on the transfer cases, I don't think this guy has a 205, heres the links he sent me of its pictures:

http://entertainment.webshots.com/ph...67963749maKgnU

http://entertainment.webshots.com/ph...67963749kTazVw
 
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Old Sep 8, 2009 | 11:21 PM
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That looks like a mid/late 90s F250/350 case, I can't think of the model number off hand.
 
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Thats a Borg Warner 1345. Aluminum body, chain driven case.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2009 | 11:15 PM
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Thats a Borg Warner 1345. Aluminum body, chain driven case.
Ah, the search continues. I am going to pick up the transmission sometime this weekend when I am not working, along with the front driveshaft. Ill get some pics and all that good stuff up when the whole project gets underway.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 11:04 AM
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Got the NP435 home the other day, just had a silly question. Is there a gasket that you need for the transmission to transfer case mating surface? I was wondering should i use some make-a-gasket or is it even necessary?
 
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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I use three bond products for these applications. Just about any RTV type stuff will be fine, but something has to be there to seal the two surfaces.
 
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Old Sep 12, 2009 | 06:11 PM
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Thanks man! I am gonna start putting the whole thing together tomorrow hopefully if I have the time. I think I wanna sand down the Tcase and the Tranny and hit them with some paint first though.
 
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