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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 01:19 PM
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Other than adding tansmission fluid to dino, is there any additive I can add that contains sulphur?
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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Other than adding tansmission fluid to dino, is there any additive I can add that contains sulphur?
And why would you want an additive that contains "sulphur"?
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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For the lubricant that the government has removed from the dino. My truck runs a lot better with 1000 ppm than 15 ppm (valves are quieter, less rattle and smoother).

I had to put some off road in it a few days back and noticed the difference immediately.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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For the lubricant that the government has removed from the dino. My truck runs a lot better with 1000 ppm than 15 ppm (valves are quieter, less rattle and smoother).

I had to put some off road in it a few days back and noticed the difference immediately.
Sulpher is not a lubricant. Its the process that removes it that reduces the lubricity.

How do you know the "off road" fuel was 1000 ppm? Maybe the fuel just had a higher cetane rating?

The "off road" fuel we use is simply dyed 15 ppm fuel and has been that way since the summer of 2006.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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It is a special blended fuel that a coal company here uses in their equipment that cannot run the 15ppm fuel. It is dyed blue so they don't put it in their new trucks. I know the supplier and told him what had happened and ask him what the difference was. He told me that the cetane was the same but that the sulpur content was at 1,000ppm as their equipment required it. He then ask me how much I used. I told him what they had given me (five gallons) to get off the mountain (damn fuel gauge was stuck). He then told me that the formula for that fuel was for 2003 and actually cost about $.45 cheaper on the gallon to produce as he did not have to strip the sulphur out of it. He then told me to run three tanks of regular fuel through the truck and then change the filter so the feds would not bust me if they stuck the tank or checked the filter.

I have also used the red fuel during the fuel crisis. That dyed stuff is almost impossible to get out of the tank and supply lines.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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I'd recommend a product called ACES II. I believe my 6.0 PSD run much better (quieter, smoother, mileage) with it.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 05:20 AM
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Good reading> http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=177728
 
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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Almost all the additive manufacturers have new fomulas since this study was made since their new formula is specificaly designed for ULSD , but for lubrication purposes I use 2-cycle oil, it is cheap and easy to find. I use 1 ounce to every 1.5 gallons of diesel.
 
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Originally Posted by pmasley
It is a special blended fuel that a coal company here uses in their equipment that cannot run the 15ppm fuel. It is dyed blue so they don't put it in their new trucks. I know the supplier and told him what had happened and ask him what the difference was. He told me that the cetane was the same but that the sulpur content was at 1,000ppm as their equipment required it.
I thought it was the same diesel, just without all the highway tax on it since it is for farm/off-road use.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2009 | 03:42 PM
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I'm curious as to where this coal company is getting LSD diesel, I wasn't aware any refineries were still producing it.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 04:57 PM
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Have you tried running any Biodiesel? I run B10 and I love it. You only really need B2 for the lubricity but they have B10 and B20 where I fuel. HTH
 
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Old Sep 19, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by origcharger
Sulpher is not a lubricant. Its the process that removes it that reduces the lubricity.

How do you know the "off road" fuel was 1000 ppm? Maybe the fuel just had a higher cetane rating?

The "off road" fuel we use is simply dyed 15 ppm fuel and has been that way since the summer of 2006.

This is why the older Diesels run like crap, no sulfur.... I know ppl that put 2-stroke oil and they run great now.... When mine gets done, 2-stroke oli is going in my tank also..
 
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Old Sep 20, 2009 | 05:13 AM
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The sulfur has nothing to do with "older diesels running like crap"

It's the refining process that removes the sulfur that does the damage to the fuel.

The refineries are using diesel fuel additive packages to return the lubricating problems.

Do some research. Some refineries are actually producing slipperier ULSD, than the 500PPM stuff was.
 
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What kind of 2-stroke? a synthetic or castor?
 
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Old Sep 21, 2009 | 11:43 PM
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After reading that study, it really makes me wonder how many injector pumps went bad because of improper lubing.
 
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