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Old 09-09-2009, 07:59 PM
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Yeah, more government intervention equals better everything.....yeah thats the ticket!!!! NOT!!! It was nice when you could actually work on an engine without removing it from the vehicle or vise versa!!
 
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I love my CTD. Even moreso that it has the 6-spd behind it.

The Cummins is the only reason I included Dodge in my truck search this past spring...and the 6-spd is the only way I would have gotten one. Yes, even the late model Dodge's still have tranny problems with anything other than a stock engine.

Surprisingly, Dodge's interiors have come a long way. In my '06, the seats are awesome, plenty of cupholders and cubby holes to store things, extra power outlet in the fold-up console....they (Dodge) are starting to listen to the consumer.

Even so, I still tell people I bought the CTD and the Dodge came with it...
 
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Originally Posted by BigDaddy6969
I'm on my 4th Dodge 3500 CTD. I use the hell out of my trucks, they pull everyday, and by pull I mean BIG loads and they handle it just fine. The Dodge I have now has been problem free and currently has a shade under 80K on it. I think the problems come into play when retards think they need more horses and put chips in their trucks, its just asking for trouble. I've had the Chevy 6.5, Ford 7.3&6.0, Dodge 5.9&6.7CTD and the Dodge outperforms the other diesel motors so badly its not even a comparison. As stated earlier- the only thing that keeps the CTD from absolutely dominating the market is the fact that its in a Dodge. If Ford should some how beable to get a contract with Cummins and start using them in their trucks they would OWN the entire HD truck market.

Somewhere, 93Ranger's ears are ringing......
 
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Yeah I'm sure he will be chiming in soon to tell us how his 2 wheel drive F150 with the 4.2 V6 can outpull any Dodge ever assembled. What an ******.
 
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Originally Posted by ATC Crazy
I love my CTD. Even moreso that it has the 6-spd behind it.

The Cummins is the only reason I included Dodge in my truck search this past spring...and the 6-spd is the only way I would have gotten one. Yes, even the late model Dodge's still have tranny problems with anything other than a stock engine.

Surprisingly, Dodge's interiors have come a long way. In my '06, the seats are awesome, plenty of cupholders and cubby holes to store things, extra power outlet in the fold-up console....they (Dodge) are starting to listen to the consumer.

Even so, I still tell people I bought the CTD and the Dodge came with it...
I hope you have a good back up vehicle, we have 15 2008 models that have been waiting for egr parts and pdf parts for over 3 months. one has been at the dealer for 3 months and it looks like they are going top buy it back . we have been waiting for over 3 months for some front end pieces that fit 2003 -2008 and Chrysler doesn't know when they will even be able to get them. ( aftermarket doesn't even make some of the parts that we need ) Ignition switches for the 2004 and earlier are are on national back order ( 3,000 of them ) napa and carquest are also on national back order for the switch's. lucky for us we have found a few in the discount diy part supply chains. A truck doesn't do you any good if it can't do its job. these are just a few of the problems we have with our dodges, the problems started 6 months to a year before the government take over, since then it has gotten ridiculous. Chevy has been a little better but still has a lot of supply problems, one to three week delays on some parts. They are getting worse as there stockpiles of parts are dwindling. Ford has been quite good at supplying what ever we need,very few supply issues. Lucky for us we haven't had very many repair problems with our Fords. Mainly driver caused issues. The fuel mileage on our Ford, Chevy and Dodge diesels have been about the same. The particulate filters and the other emissions devices that uncle Sam has mandated kill the miles per gallon on all of the new trucks. It will take a lot to get us to buy more dodges again.
 
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It's all about compromise. Cummins is the best diesel engine, Ford is the best chassis and GM is the best cab interior. There is no perfect truck. If I could order my own fantasy it would be just as I described.
 
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IDK about the GM interior my friend... I just bought an '08 Chevy 2500 and while the interior is different from what I'm used too (havent had one since '96) I wouldnt say its better. I like the Superduty interior the best myself but to each their own.
 
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Originally Posted by FordF350Superduty
After so many problems with Powerstroke I dont't see any reason to buy another one.Only Cummins should be my next choice.Whatever its Ford or Dodge,I whant to see only Cummins under hood of my truck.Its all about engine,not a truck itself.

oh boy here we go cummins this cummins that. which powerstroke do you have
 
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Originally Posted by horsepuller
It's all about compromise. Cummins is the best diesel engine, Ford is the best chassis and GM is the best cab interior. There is no perfect truck. If I could order my own fantasy it would be just as I described.
agreed. My diesel instructor has a 99 dodge dually with the 5.9 auto. It has 330k miles or so and it will still bark the tires in the shop. The duramax's are fast. One guy that hangs out at the shop has a dually with the duramax and it will roast the back tires. I have heard a lot of people say they don't last. The 7.3 seems like a very good engine. There is one at the shop that had about 350000 miles on it and still looked and ran good. I wish I could get a ford truck with a 5.9 cummins. I have thought of buying a dodge truck later but its a dodge
 
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Originally Posted by jimandmandy
Emissions certifications limit the choices of drivetrain in light duty vehicles. Each combination in each series needs to be separately tested to EPA standards. It wont happen. I dont know the cutoff weight, but it is above 10K lb GVWR, and pickups are below that.

Here is a link to the new Ford engine. Looks a bit odd with reverse-flow heads, but with a single turbo on a V-8 it makes sense. Detroit diesels and EMD locomotives always used V rather than inline engines, so there are arguments for both.

Ford Completes In-House Super Duty Diesel | The Truth About Cars
I would have to disagree with you a little. Yes Detroit and EMD did make many v style engines and EMD still does, but the most popular Detroit, the 60 series is an inline, and so are it's smaller brothers, and its Mercedes Cousin.
 
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Yes, Detroit Diesel made plenty of (straight) 6-71s, must be millions made. Also, there were 2-71s, 3-71s, and 4-71s.

There were also 3-53s and 4-53s.
 
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