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cummins conversion
Im looking to put a cummins in my 1965 ford f100 with 4x4 and i was wondering if anyone else has any information on that i have only herd of one guys doing so i didnt know if there was anyone else out there?
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From: darrington wash
ive been thinking about doing it... but right now... my ideas are to take a newer f-350 long bed crew cab... and find 2 decent slicks.... take the body off the f-350.... weld the 2 cabs from the slicks together...{making it a crew cab} and then setting that on the f-350 with the power stroke already in it... along with disk breaks already up front... power steering and power breaks... plus more upgrades for the suspension and ride quailty... but it will probablly turn out to be a very expencive slick in the long run... just for the f-350 or f-250... but i would prefer the one ton suspension...
if you do decide to swap in the cummins good luck and keep us posted on it.....
if you do decide to swap in the cummins good luck and keep us posted on it.....
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Dillin, weight is a huge factor in selecting a diesel for a half ton. Keep that in mind while searching. Your truck is old enough that emissions are not an issue in most states. A 4 cylinder turbo could be a good choice if packaged right.
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From: East Helena MT
A 5.9L six clyinder Cummins diesel weights in at about 1100 pounds. That would be a lot of weight for a half ton pickup I would think.
The other thing to consider is the cooling needs of the engine, you have to have a good sized radaitor with good air flow to keep the engine cool.
With some time and money anything can be done, but you might be better off looking for the 3.9 4 cylinder Cummins which is just a 5.9 missing two cylinders.
Jeff
The other thing to consider is the cooling needs of the engine, you have to have a good sized radaitor with good air flow to keep the engine cool.
With some time and money anything can be done, but you might be better off looking for the 3.9 4 cylinder Cummins which is just a 5.9 missing two cylinders.
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Dillin, You might want to research it a little more in depth, but bearings and other issues com into play when adding extra weight. My first thought was to build it on a heavier 70s chassis but a 65 4x4 is built off the 61-64 style.
Moving the sheet metal to a newer diesel powered chassis could still prove to be a better move in the long run. The engineering would already be done. IMHO
John
Moving the sheet metal to a newer diesel powered chassis could still prove to be a better move in the long run. The engineering would already be done. IMHO
John
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From: East Helena MT
I would think the easiest and cheapest way to complete your swap would be to buy a mid 90's Dodge 3/4 or 1 ton pickup that has body damage as it will be cheaper in price. Then either transplant your 65 body to the Dodge frame or remove all the running gear from the Dodge and transplant it onto your 65 frame.
That way you get all the pieces that you will need in one shot and my guess in the long run it would save you a lot of money. Then you sell off what parts you do not use and gain back some of the money you spent on the project. A lot of people on this forum would agree that buying a donor truck is the best way to go when completing any kind of swap.
Jeff
That way you get all the pieces that you will need in one shot and my guess in the long run it would save you a lot of money. Then you sell off what parts you do not use and gain back some of the money you spent on the project. A lot of people on this forum would agree that buying a donor truck is the best way to go when completing any kind of swap.
Jeff
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Just go small, they say, too much # they say, a 460 weighs in at around 950# to 1,000#......what's another 150# or so, heh,heh... go 4 cyl. Mercedes diesel, fit the space, not much more weight, but you'd have to go with the same tranny, clutch, etc. too.....not many Mercedes diesel vans in America tho' are there? 
.........they're all over the place here...I'm thinkinng of 2.7Litre v-6 diesel & automatic for my '79 F100 I have over here....
.........they're all over the place here...I'm thinkinng of 2.7Litre v-6 diesel & automatic for my '79 F100 I have over here....
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Just go small, they say, too much # they say, a 460 weighs in at around 950# to 1,000#......what's another 150# or so, heh,heh... go 4 cyl. Mercedes diesel, fit the space, not much more weight, but you'd have to go with the same tranny, clutch, etc. too.....not many Mercedes diesel vans in America tho' are there? .........they're all over the place here...I'm thinkinng of 2.7Litre v-6 diesel & automatic for my '79 F100 I have over here....
.........they're all over the place here...I'm thinkinng of 2.7Litre v-6 diesel & automatic for my '79 F100 I have over here....Jeff
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thanks
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I would say it's easy to stretch the frame if necessary, but getting a complete drivetrain can be quite expensive. I think you should only look at the drivetrain and try to stay away from the "sexy" pickups if you can.
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From: pahrump nv
Jack That is kinda a broad brush stroke statement, what Ford chassis, what transmission? it came out of a bread truck but has the granny low four speed trans bell housing flywheel block plate and starter i used the motor in my scout but put a 727 behind it..