VIN Plate
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VIN Plate
I'm getting ready to start the resto on my 70 F100 Ranger XLT.
In planning for this, I've decided I want to remove the VIN plate from the driver's door, rather than painting around it.
Does anyone know of a source for the original-type rivets used to hold the plate on?
I know this sounds like a trivial detail, but I want to go back as close to original as possible.
Thanks in advance for any info anyone is able to provide.
In planning for this, I've decided I want to remove the VIN plate from the driver's door, rather than painting around it.
Does anyone know of a source for the original-type rivets used to hold the plate on?
I know this sounds like a trivial detail, but I want to go back as close to original as possible.
Thanks in advance for any info anyone is able to provide.
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Oh Boy, Your in for a mess, Depending on the state, You may have to go back to the DMV/RMV and PROVE that that VIN plate belongs to that chassis. The rivets that are use are very spacial and a simple DMV/RMV check (Or even a Officer looking ) can end up with your truck being seized and a lot of court time. Contact you local DMV/RMV and find out there standing on this. And be ready to have to show the other VIN Number on the frame of the truck
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Vin/Data Plate rivets.............
I am still looking for some for my Crew Cab. When you find a source, please let me know also so I can get a couple.
Regarding the DMV, I'm not sure where Madathlon is, but there are no problems like he's forecasting in Utah. It is a common Body Shop Practice to remove the Driver's Door from a bump, replace it with another one, (used, new, or otherwise), and re-attach the old Vin Plate where it belongs on the replacement door. The Door Plate isn't even considered to be the "Actual Serial Number" here in Utah, it is the stamped number in the top flange of the passenger side forward portion of the frame. Later model Fords got their S/N placed in the lower corner of the driver's side windshield for more convenience and to not make it as necessary to have to change it. More doors require repair than do cowls.........less Vin plates to re-install. You shouldn't have any problems just because the Vin plate has been taken off and put back on.
Don't forget to tell me the source of the new rivets.............. Thanks!!
Regarding the DMV, I'm not sure where Madathlon is, but there are no problems like he's forecasting in Utah. It is a common Body Shop Practice to remove the Driver's Door from a bump, replace it with another one, (used, new, or otherwise), and re-attach the old Vin Plate where it belongs on the replacement door. The Door Plate isn't even considered to be the "Actual Serial Number" here in Utah, it is the stamped number in the top flange of the passenger side forward portion of the frame. Later model Fords got their S/N placed in the lower corner of the driver's side windshield for more convenience and to not make it as necessary to have to change it. More doors require repair than do cowls.........less Vin plates to re-install. You shouldn't have any problems just because the Vin plate has been taken off and put back on.
Don't forget to tell me the source of the new rivets.............. Thanks!!
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Like I said, Depending on your State, I grew up in Mass, working in a body shop. We would have a RMV official in weekly to sign off on VIN plate removal and they ( The State ) Would supply us with the spacial rivets needed to reinstall them. Here in California, They have you go thru Referee and they issue a new stick on tag. Im both states, You can be arrested and charged with Grand theft auto if you tamper with the plates and dont go thru each states retagging system
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Okay,in the case of these trucks at least,they havent been built for a long time,there arent that many left on the roads still,and most of the current crop of police officers still active probably havent been around long enough to notice the difference between proper and improper rivets......the very fact that the manufacturer chose to rivet the plates on something as easily switched as a door,would make it difficult to prove intent. I also can see how body shops and related businesses would get extra scrutiny compared to an actual owner,who presumably would have ownership documents in his possession.
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