hey yall need a little help. i was towing my buddys ranger home today and we got half way home and the truck just died and wouldnt restart.
i got fuel coming out the little valve on the filter, then i also got fuel that comes out the main line to the the pump, but i dont have fuel come out the 2 metel injector lines i took off.
does that sound like a injector pump went bad???
the only signs of any thing wrong was it being sluggish every so often.
btw its a 86 6.9 automatic 4x4, if that helps anything.

 

How much fuel is in your tank? The pickup tube may have rotted off...at about the 1/4 tank mark.
Did you remove your fuel filter and see how much fuel is inside?

 

Do you have power at the fuel shut off solenoid on the injection pump?

 

ill have to check the power to the solinod.
i got a hair over half a tank acording to the gauge.

i do got plenty of fuel that shoots out of the liitle valve and the metal line from the filter to the pump.
i used a large taco bell cup and got almost a half cup of fuel in just a matter of cranks out the metal line on the filter side to the pump.
just nothing from the pump to the two injectors i tried. which was the first 2 on the drivers side of the engine

 

if you have 12V power to the FSS, get a buddy turn the truck on and off and see if you can hear the FSS click. If no clicks are head it may be the FSS went bad. If it clicks just fine, then you may have experienced one of the fairly rare cases of sheared IP shaft. The FSS can be replaced with the IP still on the engine, but if the shaft went kaput you'll need a complete new IP.

 

if the shaft sheared would it make a noise?? like a pop or bang???
there was no noise the truck just shut down.

 

I think some make a scary sound, but some also die quietly...

 

So, if there's plenty of fuel being pumped to the IP and nothing coming out of the IP, where does the fuel go? In order to reach the return lines, it must go through the injector lines. Any signs of leaks? But, with that much fuel being pumped in...it would be a huge leak and you'd notice though...I don't know...got a used IP hanging around?

 

ok i check it and i do have 12v going to the fuel shut off, so i used a jumper and i couldnt hear no clicking in it.
i also checked the timeing advance and i had no power to it, so i jumper it and it made a click!?

 

The timing advance will only have power if the ignition is on and the truck is cold, same with the fast idle solenoid actually, they are wired in together. I wouldn't worry about it for the time being. The FSS being all quiet don't seem right tho, it's possible it's dead. It can be replaced in the truck, you'll need to pull the top cover off the IP (disconnect electricals and hoses beforehand, obviously) and it's right under there. Be very careful when removing it, and even more careful when reinstalling the new FSS, as if you don't drop it in quite right you'll end up with a runaway engine.

 

is there a place i can buy a new solinoid?? or do i have to get another pump???
any how to's for removel of it??
thanx for the help btw.

 

Yes, you can replace just the solenoid.......

But its pretty pricy and if you don't put the top cover back on properly then the engine could run away on you. Theres a trick to it where you have to slight it back into place to get the internal parts to line up right. Its not too hard and I've done if myself a few times.

Anyway, here is one place you can get that solenoid. A local diesel shop might also be able to help you with getting the part or even installing it for you if you want.

http://www.mwfi.com/dieselPage/ford_69.htm

Scroll down and look for the part called "Shutdown solenoid kit"
A few Ebay stores also carry them, but generally they are always close to $80.

 

Reinstalling the govenor cover on the IP.

1. Make sure the screws are NOT in the govenor cover.
2. Position the cover about 1/4" forward of the final alignment (towards the front of the truck) and about 1/8" above the pump.
3. Move the cover rearward and downwardinto positionso the arm contacts the link being careful not to roll the gasket.
4. With the cover on the pumpand before installing the screws, move the cover forward and backward until preload of the internal spring is felt indicating that the engine shut off is not binding internally.
Reinstall the three govenor cover screws with one flat washer and one lock washer with each screw. The flat washer must be against the pump cover. Screw with the seal wire hole must be in the rear position of the govenor cover. Tighten screws to 40 inch pounds.

NOTE:
The lock washer for the govenor cover assembly must be installed between the terminal grounding strap and the govenor cover before installing the screw in that corner.

5. Turn the ignition switch to the RUN position, and touch the fuel shut off solenoid wire to the solenoid terminal. A clicking sound should be heard as the wire is connected and disconnected.

WARNING:
If the fuel shut off solenoid clicking is not heard, the fuel shut off metering linkage may be jambed in the wide open position.
The engine must not be started if the clicking is not heard, as a run away engine condition may occur, resulting in serious engine damage and possible bodily harm. The engine can not be shut off if it is started with jammed fuel metering linkage.

If fuel shut off solenoid clicking is not heard, do not start the engine and check for a minimum of 10 volts battery voltage at the fuel shut off solenoid connector.

 

Um, yeah. What he said^^^

 

got it fixed today, put a new fuel solinoid in and she fired right up.
thanx for the help guys.