What would win??
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What would win??
First, I know bad idea, young and dumb, you're gonna break something etc. This may end up being hypothetical but then again I may try it to see if I can win.
2 trucks bumper to bumper pushoff. (At least were not pulling each others frames apart lol)
My 76 f250 highboy
445FE np435,205
4.10 rear, 315/75's
445 makes around 540tq
460hp
Weight 6000lbs
VS.
2006 f550 4x2
6.0l psd, auto
rear unknown(i know)
6.0l makes 570tq 325hp
Weight 8200lbs
I'm gonna get some friends in the back so i'll weigh in around 7500-8000lbs depending on how many people i can find. Do you think I can win this? lol My first gear is 6.97:1 his is only 3.11:1. And then with the 4wd I think I can get more traction not to mention gear reduction in low. Your thoughts..
2 trucks bumper to bumper pushoff. (At least were not pulling each others frames apart lol)
My 76 f250 highboy
445FE np435,205
4.10 rear, 315/75's
445 makes around 540tq
460hp
Weight 6000lbs
VS.
2006 f550 4x2
6.0l psd, auto
rear unknown(i know)
6.0l makes 570tq 325hp
Weight 8200lbs
I'm gonna get some friends in the back so i'll weigh in around 7500-8000lbs depending on how many people i can find. Do you think I can win this? lol My first gear is 6.97:1 his is only 3.11:1. And then with the 4wd I think I can get more traction not to mention gear reduction in low. Your thoughts..
Last edited by JesusRocks; Aug 16, 2009 at 07:05 PM. Reason: it doesnt like the way i space..
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tranny has just been rebuilt. the motor only has about 2000miles on it. the 550 has 198,000 miles on. He has a utility/side crane bed, so a lot of weight over the wheels. But then so will I, I've got a spare 390 around that I'll load up and then plus friends I should actually have more weight over the rear wheels.
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i agree...weight over the rear axle, 6.0, auto, yep.....you should feel privileged if he dont stall your engine, not to mention twisting driveshafts, breaking u-joints, etc. etc
keep this hypothetical--nothing gets broken that way
keep this hypothetical--nothing gets broken that way
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I'd hate to see what your front end will look like after that F550 gets done crushing it in lol... Don't those things have more of an angled bumper instead of flat?
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You got a shot if you do it on dirt or gravel and use 4x4, most of these turn out to be a traction contest and have nothing to do with one truck being better than another. How do you plan on pushing each other with totally wreaking the front ends? By the way you put the same amount of strain on the frame just on the other end. Do people actually do these things, I have heard about pull offs before but never known any one who actually did it always just talk, this will be the first push off I have ever heard of.
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Yep, this one will come down to weight and traction. Road tires off road or mud tires on road will screw you over. The first trick you could use is: you have the correct tires for the terrain, have him caught with the wrong ones. Second, you need to beat his weight, no approximation. Get it on a scale, and be heavier. Also, whoever is higher off the ground is at a disadvantage. If the other truck pushes you up, you loose traction.
I don't know how you'll keep from tearing up the front ends, but as long as there isn't snatching, too many drive train things shouldn't break, just a bunch of wheel spinning.
I've tied an '80s Bronco to a stuck tractor, eased out till the line was taught and just started wailing on it. My brother said it looked like a Rottweiler trying to get off a chain. It was going side to side, the front end kept hopping. The tractor didn't budge, but it was good fun.
I don't know how you'll keep from tearing up the front ends, but as long as there isn't snatching, too many drive train things shouldn't break, just a bunch of wheel spinning.
I've tied an '80s Bronco to a stuck tractor, eased out till the line was taught and just started wailing on it. My brother said it looked like a Rottweiler trying to get off a chain. It was going side to side, the front end kept hopping. The tractor didn't budge, but it was good fun.
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ok, did this, with a 1966 2x4 F100 300 6cyl, NP435, 3.73,,, him a 1974 C20 2x4 350/350... cept we hooked chains, bumper/bumper on asphalt,,, he twisted a driveshaft. We had done the front bumper to front bumper,,, that just results in bent metal... you might have him there in metal integrity,,, not sure, but if this is "hypothetical" (or for real!) I would hook a chain back to back,,, UNLESS you could give a rats A$$ what your truck will look like in the end, then go front to front and watch him cringe!
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In 4WD and with a load of people in the bed, your truck is going to want to raise the front end, which will cost you traction. Since you apparently have no regard for the welfare of your truck, why don't you just load your friends up on the hood and roof? (don't do this, really.) That's where the weight will be most useful.
In the end, his auto will probably screw you over. As has been said, the key to pulling or pushing is traction, and the best way to maintain traction is by applying consistent pressure and making very fine adjustments in throttle, which his auto can do much better. He can also use his brakes in unison with his trans, and you can't. You'll start hopping very quickly, and every time you have to let off the clutch to regain traction, he'll gain ground.
I believe that this will simply be a test of how long your clutch/front end will last.
BTW- what happens if he loads up with his friends?
In the end, his auto will probably screw you over. As has been said, the key to pulling or pushing is traction, and the best way to maintain traction is by applying consistent pressure and making very fine adjustments in throttle, which his auto can do much better. He can also use his brakes in unison with his trans, and you can't. You'll start hopping very quickly, and every time you have to let off the clutch to regain traction, he'll gain ground.
I believe that this will simply be a test of how long your clutch/front end will last.
BTW- what happens if he loads up with his friends?