first off, you're allwed to rant, but i have to point a few things out. i was at the carlisle truck show too. if you are going to be posting a rant about stereotypical diesel trucks, be fair and post about every other stereotypical truck and car owner. the carlisle all truck nationals is just that, all trucks. it isn't only diesel trucks.

there are bad apples in every bunch, and i saw a bunch of them at carlisle. right by the FTE tent, there were all kinds of bad apples. trucks burning out at one area and then again burning out up the hill towards the rock crawl area. and another area at the bottom of the hill. there were diesel trucks, gas trucks, mini trucks, full size trucks, and even mini bikes doing burnouts. i watched 2 trucks break u-joints while trying to burnout near our tent. both happened to be gas trucks. i also watched a mini truck make some donuts in the grass and almost hit 4 people.

you say "Problem is, they will crack down on EVERYONE for it. hot rod guys, minitruck guys, everyone is going to get blamed." everyone should get blamed. the problem is lack of self control of some people. most of the day you hear "light it up" from the crowd, so the lack of control of the driver steps in and there's the burnout. and the lack of control of the crowd just encourages the drivers more. you call the diesel group equally guilty for causing the problems, but you better include every other type of vehicle that was at the show.

i'm 27 and i know there's gonna be issues like this with any kind of gathering of people. i could have easily done a burnout but chose not to. i'll save that for the burnout competition. i can send black smoke through the air when i choose, and i generally don't.

in short, the recklessness wasn't just diesels, it was all types. so don't be too quick to point the blame.

 

Wow, just seen this post. I was at Carlisle last year with my club FTE and it was great, met some great people I chat with on here, didn't even hear of any fights or mayhem. Seen an occasional burnout and some smoke out the stacks but uneventful. I see what your saying but why did you pick just the diesel forums to post this and not any of the other gasser forums here, they went too, just wondering.

 

Because everything I saw at Carlilse acting up was diesels. I know that place was big, so I guess i was just always in the wrong place at the right time. Its not what started the rant, its just the straw that broke the camels back before I went and put it out in the open. I never claimed to be a diesel enthusiest, but rather a jack of all trades if you will. I like anything that I like. Yes I like jacked up diesels and 4x4's, I like minitrucks, I like hot rods and imports. So when you are around all these different sceens so much, and see the way they see and treat eachother, it makes you think. Makes you not understand why all these sceenes have to be in DIFFERENT sceenes. The imports dont like diesels. The minitrucks dont like imports. The hotrods dont like imports or lowriders, and the diesels cover anything smaller than them in soot. Yeah, these are the general stereotypes. Look, out on the street, I drive a lowered S-10 on chrome 18's as my everyday daily cheap beater transportation. I keep on the lookout for diesel trucks, because about every two weeks or so, one (different truck every time) will try and get that tail pipe lined up with my window in traffic for fun. It sucks. Import guys have to be on the lookout all the time too. Smaller vehicles get bullied around on the roadways by diesel trucks. I'm giving this to you from a perspective that many of you probaly werent aware was even there. So Carlilse lit the match, because honestly, I hate to see any kind of automotive culture mess it up for the masses or for themselves. I figured I'd spout it out since I'm about as unbiased a person thats out there, since I don't consider myself liking one more than another, yet I see it personaly from all sides. I see what the imports are doing badly, I see the minitruckers behaving badly, and I see the rest behaving badly. This forum is my only outlet to diesel owners so thats why I used it. I deal with the other guys on a more personal level, since I know more of them. I am also on forums for those other sceenes as well. It just that the diesel sceene seems to be the one thats growing the fastest as of late, and with that growth comes the bad apples. Need to nip it in the butt before it gats like the imports got 5yrs ago. So to those that get it, I'm glad you see what I am saying is not bashing diesels and their owners, but rather a constructive critisism from the harsh reality of how others veiw your sceene. To those that don't get it, I dought you will. So anyways, I think we've all said the same thing as many ways as possible so I'm about done, I think I've gotten my messege accrossed as best as its gonna get. I hope all you good guys can get those few bad apples in check. It can be done. Best wishes guys.

 

I understand your plight and in some instances I can agree with it, but I think you're making everyone else seem like better people then they are when compared to diesel owners.

I can list a lot of things that gas burners are guilty of and give you a run if your money based on the complaints that you have voiced so far. I'm not excusing it by any means, but don't try to sell the "hooker with a heart of gold" story.

Trying to keep other people in check with how and what they do with their free money and time will get you nothing good in return, at least if you try to do it pleasantly. In all honesty venting is just going to get you ulcers and not much else as there is not much else that you/we can do without getting downright "harsh" in control tactics. Trust me, there wouldn't be a lot of fun going on if I was in charge of stuff, that's for sure. However, you wouldn't be complaining about this stuff either and that's about what you are going to have to do to get this to change.

Now totally irrelevant to the conversation, but something that is just really grinding away at me. I'm sure that this is going to further cement my place as the king jackass of the 6.0 forum. You do realize that scene is spelled s-c-e-n-e and not s-c-e-e-n-e don't you? I at first thought it was a typo, but you have spelled it way too much that way for me to think of it as being a typo and you're actually adding a letter, so it can't be to save time either. Having an english teacher for a grandmother and dating an english teacher as well as spending a lot of time in the halls of academia make one sensitive to such things. It's small and irrelevant to the conversation, but it's something I had to get off my chest like you had to get this off yours.

 

Why is that good thing Tex? If you behave and drive with sense I would have no problem lol. Living in the greater cincinati area (man I hate making it sound like we are part of Ohio) there are a lot of people. This makes for a larger number of idiots that can't drive and they drive me nuts.

 

I feel your pain there. I grew up in Plano which alot of people consider apart of the DFW area and I just shudder at that. I don't consider it apart of Dallas and I sure don't want to even begin to think of it as being apart of Ft. Worth.

Matt knows how much I dislike Ft. Worth and he likes to say that I'm from Ft. Worth just to make me act the goat.

 

LOL, I grew up in northwest ohio but my family came from Mckee kentucky (Appalchia). I decided I was gowing back "home" and hate the way Ohioans rag on us Kentucky folk.

 

I hear yaa bmarkline, your intitled to your opinion and I respect that. I personally wouldn't want to see anything happen to the Carlisle event either but no matter how you see it, your going to get some idiots at every event, it would be nice to see some event staff or a police presence there to keep things in line, just might see that next year and to us responsable people, could be a good thing.

 

This is simple. You got a bunch of guys doing ***** measuring. I personally could care less of you drive a diesel with 1000 hp and eat Lamborghinis for breakfast. I just don’t care enough to be worried or impressed about it. I drive a diesel because it’s the best vehicle that meets my needs and it’s reliable for my expectations.

Lots pf people put their cars or trucks on a pedestal. You’re at a big car meet and sine guys are just going to want to be the talk of the town. Just go on about your business.

 

a bit of thread mining huh???

this guys last post was: Last Activity: 06-30-2011 06:23 PM

 

Ugh. That’s what I hate about forums. Dead threads should just be highlighted in zombie green

 

Yea, but it resurrected my posting activity from the dead as well.

 

ya got to do a lot of searching through the dead files to find a 10 year old thread though.

 

some times' these things never die.

 

Sometimes you’re sitting in the ER waiting for news and you just read post titles. (My wife was in the ER over the weekend)