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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 09:41 AM
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Adrenaline HPOP ?

Who's running the adrenaline HPOP and how do you like it?

I'm looking at getting one, would like to know what kind of improvements that have been seen from installing it. Truck is used a lot for towing around the farm.

I just called Dieselsite to ask a few questions about it and Bob was less than helpful. I imagine he is busy and doesn't have time to chit-chat, but I didn't get much specific information about how it'll help me besides "you'll really like it".

I did some logging on the AE with test runs laid out according to Swamps. I'm able to maintain 2700-2800psi at WOT in a run from 60-90mph. According to them, that is great. So would it benefit me to get one?

Just looking for real user information.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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I'm not sure you'd benefit much from it if yours is already holding that much. Is that on stock injectors? Mine is dropping into the low 2000s with an occasional 1900ish showing up. I've been thinking about trying this out as well...
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 11:51 AM
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The Adrenaline will supply enough volume to help maintain higher pressures.... IF you have a chip calling for higher pressures. See, it takes a bit to explain, but indulge me.

First, the Adrenaline does NOT need new tuning. If you are running a chip and seeing pressures fall off, the Adrenaline can supply a higher volume so that pressures don't drop of at all, or as much (all depends on the tuning).

Pumps supply volume, not the pressure. The pressure is dictated by what the tuning calls for.

With your pump maintaining 2700psi you've got an excellent pump. Will you see an improvement? Sure thing. But not as much as someone who's pump can't maintain, say, 2400psi.

I would hazard a guess that the HPOP you have currently isn't the original one. An early 99 would have a 15* pump. Some 17* pumps can't maintain 2800psi. How long have you owned your truck?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy351
I'm not sure you'd benefit much from it if yours is already holding that much. Is that on stock injectors? Mine is dropping into the low 2000s with an occasional 1900ish showing up. I've been thinking about trying this out as well...
I've got stage 1 (160cc) single shots.

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The Adrenaline will supply enough volume to help maintain higher pressures.... IF you have a chip calling for higher pressures. See, it takes a bit to explain, but indulge me.

First, the Adrenaline does NOT need new tuning. If you are running a chip and seeing pressures fall off, the Adrenaline can supply a higher volume so that pressures don't drop of at all, or as much (all depends on the tuning).

Pumps supply volume, not the pressure. The pressure is dictated by what the tuning calls for.

With your pump maintaining 2700psi you've got an excellent pump. Will you see an improvement? Sure thing. But not as much as someone who's pump can't maintain, say, 2400psi.

I would hazard a guess that the HPOP you have currently isn't the original one. An early 99 would have a 15* pump. Some 17* pumps can't maintain 2800psi. How long have you owned your truck?
That's basically what Bob and dieselsite said. My question is, if I upgrade to this pump, can tuning be modified to better optimize the injectors knowing that the pump can maintain the flow needed, and will I get my $500 worth of improvement from it?

I bought this 17* pump from a junk yard for $100. My goal is to make the truck run as efficient as possible, especially for towing. I've owned this truck for 6 years now, second owner.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by farmb0y
I've got stage 1 (160cc) single shots.
For my own curiosity, where did you get those from?


Originally Posted by farmb0y
That's basically what Bob and dieselsite said. My question is, if I upgrade to this pump, can tuning be modified to better optimize the injectors knowing that the pump can maintain the flow needed, and will I get my $500 worth of improvement from it?

Yes, the tuning can definitely be tweaked to take advantage of it. Here's my plan:
Get the injectors I want, get the turbo, then get live tuning done. Get all the hardware in place, then get the tuning done.


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I bought this 17* pump from a junk yard for $100. My goal is to make the truck run as efficient as possible, especially for towing. I've owned this truck for 6 years now, second owner.
That's one heck of a deal! If you're old 15* pump is still around and decent, you can send it back to Bob as the core, then sell your 17* to another early-99'er. Or heck, for the money, and knowing how strong it is, I'd probably box it up as a "just in case".
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 12:48 PM
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The injectors came from Diesel Performance Plus, they were the cheapest I could find, and I think I got what I paid for. I just talked to Ryan Casserly and I'm going to be sending them to him to have his nozzles put on them.

I've done live tuning, but Tony wasn't able to make much improvement on the smoke issues I have. I just installed a 38R with new bellowed up-pipes and it definitely helped, but I still get more smoke than what I want and what I think should be there for stage 1's and a 38r.

Once I get the injectors back, and if I do the adrenaline, I'm going to talk to Tony and get a reburn done, see if thing get better.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 01:04 PM
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I used to get some smoke... not bad at all, but I'm on stock injectors & turbo. After installing my Adrenaline, what little smoke I had was almost completely gone. She'll get hazy, but that's about it. I like that alot. Black smoke = $$ wasted basically.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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I take back my statement then. With Stage 1 SS injectors, your pump should easily hold 3000psi, which is what I believe Tony tunes for (based on similar sticks in Rich-WhiteBuffalo's truck). Rich's 2003 stock 17 degree pump holds 3000 psi rock solid on similar SS injectors (I've ridden in his truck and seen it myself).
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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Hey guys,

I have a stock 2003 7.3L, bone stock minus the K&N FIPK.

My HPOP is leaking oil due to a crack in the housing.

I am trying to decided whether to go stock or aftermarket.

Is the Adrenaline HPOP something I should be looking into?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 01:38 PM
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Yes, and I put a link to it in your thread. LOL
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 01:46 PM
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haha I saw that.

Thanks for the info.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by knecoli22
Hey guys,

I have a stock 2003 7.3L, bone stock minus the K&N FIPK.
I know it's , but IMHO I would recommend getting rid of your K&N filter. It doesn't filter out as much dirt/dust as you think and the CFM that these suck at boost is probably pulling the oil off of your filter and ingesting it through the turbo into the engine. I would recommend a dry filter at the very least. If you are on a budget like most of us, I would search for the "6637" mod in the 99-03 7.3L forum. If nobody else chimes in you can search for K&N in the 99-03 7.3L forum and see what people have to say about those filters on these trucks. Sorry for the , just trying to look out for diesel brother...

Just my .02
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by farmb0y
Who's running the adrenaline HPOP and how do you like it?

I'm looking at getting one, would like to know what kind of improvements that have been seen from installing it. Truck is used a lot for towing around the farm.

I just called Dieselsite to ask a few questions about it and Bob was less than helpful. I imagine he is busy and doesn't have time to chit-chat, but I didn't get much specific information about how it'll help me besides "you'll really like it".

I did some logging on the AE with test runs laid out according to Swamps. I'm able to maintain 2700-2800psi at WOT in a run from 60-90mph. According to them, that is great. So would it benefit me to get one?

Just looking for real user information.
THANKS!
Hi there,

Bob must've been busy because that doesn't sound like him. Ah... it happens sometimes. It suddenly hit me this morning that I had just answered the phone with a very short, "Power Hungry." Felt like a creep, but it happens sometimes without thinking.

That being said, we do the tuning for Bob's adrenaline pumps and would be happy to answer any questions you have and help you both. Feel free to give us a shout at 678-963-9913, or we'll be happy to give you a call if you e-mail us your number.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Izzy351
I take back my statement then. With Stage 1 SS injectors, your pump should easily hold 3000psi, which is what I believe Tony tunes for (based on similar sticks in Rich-WhiteBuffalo's truck). Rich's 2003 stock 17 degree pump holds 3000 psi rock solid on similar SS injectors (I've ridden in his truck and seen it myself).

I've kinda been in touch with Rich for quite a while regarding this. We have a fairly similar setup, he loves his, I don't so much. He just posted some numbers regarding his psi levels and how he was holding 3000, that's what's got me wondering if the adrenaline would make a nice improvement. I thought the 2700+ I was seeing was good, but not compared to Rich.


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Hi there,

Bob must've been busy because that doesn't sound like him. Ah... it happens sometimes. It suddenly hit me this morning that I had just answered the phone with a very short, "Power Hungry." Felt like a creep, but it happens sometimes without thinking.

That being said, we do the tuning for Bob's adrenaline pumps and would be happy to answer any questions you have and help you both. Feel free to give us a shout at 678-963-9913, or we'll be happy to give you a call if you e-mail us your number.
I'll give Bob the benefit of the doubt. Since you're familiar with these pumps, and from what Joe said about Rich's truck holding 3000psi; if I were to install this pump with no other changes, would I see similar results being able to maintain 3k psi? I guess that's my ultimate question. Or would I have to get back with Tony or work with you folks about tuning for this pump?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 05:02 PM
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I have talked to Bob and seemed to have no problem explaining things, so I am surprised you got that impression. I am sure he is busy,
 
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