Replacing Tow Command controller with aftermarket controller.
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There are guys who spend $600 getting the Ford IBC installed, and think it's worth it. My advice is to repair your Ford with Ford parts. And I'm not even completely convinced you actually have a bad controller. I've seen them misdiagnosed a few times by those who don't understand how it is supposed to work. Especially on the early '05's, the first year it was available.
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I'm just saying that most guys testing these with a VOM at the rear plug are going to misdiagnose the problem.
If you are not interested in getting the OEM unit to work, then just ignore this and follow your plan with an aftermarket unit.
If you are interested in diagnosing it, then I suggest you hitch up, find a safe area to get the rig up to at least 35 mph, and try the manual brake levers. If you still get no brakes, then I will agree the unit is not working at all.
If you are not interested in getting the OEM unit to work, then just ignore this and follow your plan with an aftermarket unit.
If you are interested in diagnosing it, then I suggest you hitch up, find a safe area to get the rig up to at least 35 mph, and try the manual brake levers. If you still get no brakes, then I will agree the unit is not working at all.
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The TBC will have no effect on the lights.
This is just a shot in the dark, but have you checked the plug at the master cylinder to make sure it's still connected?
Did you ever have any work done that involved changing the PCM settings? Maybe your ITBC prameter got turned off?
This is just a shot in the dark, but have you checked the plug at the master cylinder to make sure it's still connected?
Did you ever have any work done that involved changing the PCM settings? Maybe your ITBC prameter got turned off?
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I'm just saying that most guys testing these with a VOM at the rear plug are going to misdiagnose the problem.
If you are not interested in getting the OEM unit to work, then just ignore this and follow your plan with an aftermarket unit.
If you are interested in diagnosing it, then I suggest you hitch up, find a safe area to get the rig up to at least 35 mph, and try the manual brake levers. If you still get no brakes, then I will agree the unit is not working at all.
If you are not interested in getting the OEM unit to work, then just ignore this and follow your plan with an aftermarket unit.
If you are interested in diagnosing it, then I suggest you hitch up, find a safe area to get the rig up to at least 35 mph, and try the manual brake levers. If you still get no brakes, then I will agree the unit is not working at all.
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Did it ever work for you ??? You have checked for bad fuse's and relay's,,,made sure the controller is pluged into the harness in the dash,,,if you say it is completley dead,,Got to be one of these,,,or it is FUBAR !
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Trust me, I appreciate all of the info on here, that is why I posted my question. Yes, I have tried the manual brake lever many, many times, and it does absolutley nothing. The face on the controller is completely dead as well, with no lights, gain settings or anything. It is completely dead.
Well, I concede that that does sound like a dead controller. All I can add is that I have owned and used both Tekonsha and Ford IBC. If I had to choose between a $100 aftermarket controller and a $300 Ford controller, I would choose to repair the Ford every time.
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I just towed my second long trip (500 Miles) with my F250 (with tow command) and after locking up the brakes and rapidly changing lanes (avoiding a rolling diamond men at work sign) in a nasty thunderstorm I can without a doubt say I wont tow with out it. I am confident that my F150 and trailer with a prodigy would be sitting in a tow yard somewhere in Virginia.
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We have been retrofitting the Ford unit on our new Fords that have come without them even tho we have to change out for a different brake mastercyllinder for the system to work and reprogram the system
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I generally say nothing is impossible, but this would be pretty close. I've not heard of anyone who did it.
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acertm,
Probably a tricky project to get the Ford controller setup.
The Tekonsha P3 is a good product. I would go that route before attempting a retro fit.
Rick...
Probably a tricky project to get the Ford controller setup.
The Tekonsha P3 is a good product. I would go that route before attempting a retro fit.
Rick...
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first off, you would have to trade out your entire PCM for an 05 or later so your vehicle would even recognize that it was capable of having a brake controller...
if the TowCommand controller is a must, it would be easier and cheaper to find a used truck with one...
if the TowCommand controller is a must, it would be easier and cheaper to find a used truck with one...
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