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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 10:04 AM
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problems with my bedliner

ok, so I got a spray in bedliner installed a couple months ago, its a Scorpion brand. (went with them because I got a good discount).

when I dropped it off I specifically aske if they were going to do a low pressure liner...(what i wanted) to which they said yes. however, upon getting my truck back, i found that i had a liner that was just a little bit thicker than paint. (high pressure liner) I wouldve complained but after research many people said those were better.

so now onto my problem. last weekend i helped a friend move and now there are scratch marks all over the liner (not down to the paint) and there are a few select spots that are gouged out, showing the paint. it looks like crap

do I have a case with the installer? I wanted a bedliner that was really thick! my brother has a low pressure bedliner, and its like 5/8" thick and stands up to everything!

what course of action should I take? suggestions?

thanks!
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 10:26 AM
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Thickness has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not it's high pressure or low pressure. High pressure bedliners can be applied thin or thick, low pressure bedliners can be applied thin or thick.

Thickness is a consideration, but you should consider other things. For example, would you rather have 1/4" of aluminum or 1/8" of steel? Spray-on bedliners have different physical properties, some are much stronger than others (and high or low pressure has nothing to do with strength either).

My answer to your question: The dealer probably gave you a warranty, you should take it back to him and see if he will fix it. Unfortunately, Scorpian does not offer a nationwide warranty and Scorpian Corporate probably won't help you, so you will be at the mercy of the dealer. 5/8" thickness is too thick for any bedliner in my opinion.

Scorpian is similar to Speedliner and Superliner. The dealer must first apply a primer to the bed because the bedliner product alone does not have good adhesion. Then the bedliner can be brushed on, rolled on, or applied with a hopper gun. These products are are solvent based and are similiar to paint. They take several hours to dry and about three days to cure. Just to compare, LINE-X is not solvent based, does not require a primer, dries in 4 seconds and cures within 1 day, and has a nationwide lifetime warranty.

Post some pics if you can!

Scorpian:




LINE-X:


 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 10:45 AM
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I had a "high" pressure bed liner sprayed on my truck. My only regrets.....I have a white truck and got a black bed liner. I never thought to ask if they had colors.........too late now.

I was worried about gouging the liner and things sliding around in the bed. I installed a 3'8" thick rubber mat and that makes me happy. I know that I spent extra $$$$ with a liner and a mat...........but it made me a satisified owner with few worries about damage to the liner.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 11:08 AM
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[QUOTE=TruckDaddy;7779981]Thickness has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not it's high pressure or low pressure. High pressure bedliners can be applied thin or thick, low pressure bedliners can be applied thin or thick.

Thickness is a consideration, but you should consider other things. For example, would you rather have 1/4" of aluminum or 1/8" of steel? Spray-on bedliners have different physical properties, some are much stronger than others (and high or low pressure has nothing to do with strength either).

My answer to your question: The dealer probably gave you a warranty, you should take it back to him and see if he will fix it. Unfortunately, Scorpian does not offer a nationwide warranty and Scorpian Corporate probably won't help you, so you will be at the mercy of the dealer. 5/8" thickness is too thick for any bedliner in my opinion.

Scorpian is similar to Speedliner and Superliner. The dealer must first apply a primer to the bed because the bedliner product alone does not have good adhesion. Then the bedliner can be brushed on, rolled on, or applied with a hopper gun. These products are are solvent based and are similiar to paint. They take several hours to dry and about three days to cure. Just to compare, LINE-X is not solvent based, does not require a primer, dries in 4 seconds and cures within 1 day, and has a nationwide lifetime warranty.

Post some pics if you can!

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hmmm... i was always under the impression that the high/low were sprayed at different thicknesses. thanks for the info.

i knew i should have gone with Line-x and/or rhino, seems like they hold up.

I believe that scorpion does have a warranty but it doesnt cover gouges..

all i know it this doesnt look good, and that is why i bought a bedliner, to keep it looking good after a lot of use!

i uploaded pictures to my profile
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/a...p?albumid=3286
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by george6488
I had a "high" pressure bed liner sprayed on my truck. My only regrets.....I have a white truck and got a black bed liner. I never thought to ask if they had colors.........too late now.

I was worried about gouging the liner and things sliding around in the bed. I installed a 3'8" thick rubber mat and that makes me happy. I know that I spent extra $$$$ with a liner and a mat...........but it made me a satisified owner with few worries about damage to the liner.
George6488, im glad that you found something that works for you. but for me i bought the spray in liner so that i didnt have to put anything else in there. to me it sounds kind of rediculous to put a bedliner on to protect your bedliner which protects your bed. hahaha

although the more i think about what im prolly going to have to reinvest in this bedliner, i may want to go your rout so that I can protect my investment
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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Sort of unrelated, but that edge looks a little sloppy.

Not a Ford, but the bedliner has a nice clean edge. You should also know that the bedliner cannot be thick in this area. Too much thickness and the tailgate will not close.


Your pic:
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TruckDaddy
Sort of unrelated, but that edge looks a little sloppy.

Not a Ford, but the bedliner has a nice clean edge.


yeah that was complaint #13 that i had with them when i picked it up from getting sprayed, it just hasnt been a experience since then.

this was just from a table and chairs, imagine what will happen when i begin my landscaping project and load my truck with rocks?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 12:59 PM
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Try to work it out with them. If they don't cooperate, look into implied warranties of "merchanability" and "fitness for a particular use." The damage you describe seems like it could very trigger one or both of these.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 01:44 PM
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My Rhino Liner would gouge like that as well. There's definitely a huge difference in quality of bed liners and the people that apply them. I actually didn't like my Rhino Liner at all and they are a big, well known company. The first time they sprayed it, it bled the red color right out of it and down my driveway. Then they sprayed it again which increased the thickness so much that it looked sloppy and inconsistent. I didn't like the "rubberiness" (is that a word?) of the Rhino liner. Too hard to slide pallets in and out of the bed and it felt to soft.

I think if you go back and are cool about it with them, they will most likely spray it again. Maybe their formula was off. That was Rhino Liner's excuse for me anyway.

I give the thumbs up to the Line-X,which I have now, which is applied very consistent and is much more durable.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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Try to work it out with them. If they don't cooperate, look into implied warranties of "merchanability" and "fitness for a particular use." The damage you describe seems like it could very trigger one or both of these.
Well, you will have to file a lawsuit (preferably in small claims court) to do that. Actually, you probably will lose on those two points mentioned above, but you would probably win by enforcing the warranty of workmanlike quality.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 01:49 PM
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thanks guys, yeah I am going to head over there, and talk with them about it after work this afternoon. I hope this can just be resolved painlessly.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 02:41 PM
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Just curious.............is a light color or white spray-in liner available?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 02:49 PM
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Yes, but many dealers charge more for white, it's more difficult to deal with.

Ford's tri-coat.


Another white bedliner:
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 03:05 PM
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Truck daddy

Line x question for truck daddy:

I have Line X, applied two months ago. A few weeks back was towing an 8k TT and had a 150lb generator strapped down in the bed. Upon removing the generator after 1,000 miles, the grippy "nobbles" of the Line X were worn smooth where the generator was. Is this normal wear and tear?

To make clear, there were no gouges or tears, just a small area which was smooth to the touch.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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Actually, you probably will lose on those two points mentioned above, but you would probably win by enforcing the warranty of workmanlike quality.
"Workmanlike quality" pertains to services. Buying a bedliner is purchasing a good. "Fitness for a particular use" depends on what was said at the time of sale. "Merchantability" pertains to the quality of the product, which must meet a reasonable standard, and he advises was not even fit to move furniture.


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Well, you will have to file a lawsuit (preferably in small claims court) to do that..
Taking them to small claims court would not be difficult. Leonards in VA jacked up the installation of some stuff on my truck years ago. They would not make it right, I took them to small claims court and got almost $1000 back. It was worth the trouble. And hopefully they didn't do anybody else the same way after that.
 
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