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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pass-thru
"Workmanlike quality" pertains to services. Buying a bedliner is purchasing a good. "Fitness for a particular use" depends on what was said at the time of sale. "Merchantability" pertains to the quality of the product, which must meet a reasonable standard, and he advises was not even fit to move furniture.




Taking them to small claims court would not be difficult. Leonards in VA jacked up the installation of some stuff on my truck years ago. They would not make it right, I took them to small claims court and got almost $1000 back. It was worth the trouble. And hopefully they didn't do anybody else the same way after that.

wow thanks for the information, I guess we shall see what they say this afternoon. but yeah i had a dinner table and four chairs in the bed ( two of those chairs didnt even touch the bedliner) shouldnt it hold up better than that or am I asking too much?
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 03:23 PM
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also as a hypothetical question, suppose that this place says they will not fix this. is it possible to take it to a line-x place and have them spray their stuff on? (I didnt know if they would do it after its allready been sprayed) I realize that I would have to pay for a whole new liner though.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 03Rangerkid
also as a hypothetical question, suppose that this place says they will not fix this. is it possible to take it to a line-x place and have them spray their stuff on? (I didnt know if they would do it after its allready been sprayed) I realize that I would have to pay for a whole new liner though.
Theyw ill but you'll have to pay them to remove the old one.

As regards you other post, damn right it should hold up to tiny 5lb deck chairs. Get you money back from them and head over to Line X.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 03:30 PM
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Theyw ill but you'll have to pay them to remove the old one.

As regards you other post, damn right it should hold up to tiny 5lb deck chairs. Get you money back from them and head over to Line X.


ok thats what i was wondering, if they would be able to just spray on top of it... guess not lol
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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I see it a little differently, but I'm not an attorney.

Warranty of Merchantability would pertain to the product itself. The bedliner product itself (not its application) is same average grade, quality, and value as similar goods sold under similar circumstances.

Implied Warranty of Fitness would pertain the use of the product for a particular purpose. Polyurethane/polyurea coatings are common products used in the bedliner industry.

The problem is the installation of the product, not the product itself or the particular use of the product. The installation (probably) does not conform to common bedliner standards or Scorpian's standards. Thus, it's a violation of the Warranty of Workmanlike Quality.

If you want another brand of bedliner, you have some options:
1. Strip it out and apply another brand. This is your best but most expensive option. If you strip it out and apply another brand, you will get the new brand's full warranty.
2. You can have another brand spray on top of it, but you won't get their warranty because it's the Scorpian that's attached to your truck, not the new brand. WARNING: Many brands think they can simply apply a new coating on top of an old coating without the use of a primer. That will not work long term, I guarantee it. Eventually, the layers will delaminate. If you want LINE-X to be sprayed on top of the Scorpian, the LINE-X dealer will have a couple of methods to offer you. First, you can get LINE-X ReNew which adds a new texture but very little thickness and includes LINE-X Xtra (prevents fading). Or, second, the dealer can first apply a primer, such as LINE-X SF515, and then spray to your desired thickess.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 04:26 PM
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Not trying to hijack your thread 03 Rangerkid, but Carl, what is involved and difficulty in removing a spray-in bedliner. Hope you get your situation taken care of fairly 03Rangerkid.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter
Line x question for truck daddy:

I have Line X, applied two months ago. A few weeks back was towing an 8k TT and had a 150lb generator strapped down in the bed. Upon removing the generator after 1,000 miles, the grippy "nobbles" of the Line X were worn smooth where the generator was. Is this normal wear and tear?

To make clear, there were no gouges or tears, just a small area which was smooth to the touch.
Sorry, I just now noticed your post.

The first thing the LINE-X dealer should do is to make sure the bedliner is normal, meaning the chemicals properly cured and the chemical ratio was correct. Visually looking at it and touching it would do the trick. Second, the LINE-X dealer should check to see if something rubbed off into the texture which makes it appear smooth. I'd blow off the area with some high pressure air to see if there is any affect. Assuming the bedliner is normal and nothing rubbed off into the texture, some might say it's normal wear and tear. However, most likely the dealer wants you to be happy and will fix this minor flaw.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 05:08 PM
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Not trying to hijack your thread 03 Rangerkid, but Carl, what is involved and difficulty in removing a spray-in bedliner. Hope you get your situation taken care of fairly 03Rangerkid.
Bill,

I'm not sure bud, I would imagine just peel it off and then "resand" the bed so the new liner will stick. Truck Daddy is a Line X installer I believe so he should be able to help answer.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 05:11 PM
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Sorry, I just now noticed your post.

The first thing the LINE-X dealer should do is to make sure the bedliner is normal, meaning the chemicals properly cured and the chemical ratio was correct. Visually looking at it and touching it would do the trick. Second, the LINE-X dealer should check to see if something rubbed off into the texture which makes it appear smooth. I'd blow off the area with some high pressure air to see if there is any affect. Assuming the bedliner is normal and nothing rubbed off into the texture, some might say it's normal wear and tear. However, most likely the dealer wants you to be happy and will fix this minor flaw.
Thank you for the thorough answer. I really love the product and the affected are is very small but I don't plan on babying my truck so it will see heavier, rougher loads in the future. I don't really want to bother the dealer so I'll play it by ear for know but I sure don't want the "non-slide" nature to be compromised across a wider area.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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There are various methods to strip out a bedliner. Some bedliners come out easily, some don't. Hammer and chisel, air chisel, cut 1 square foot sections with a knife and then use a pressure washer to peel it up, some use liquid nitrogen, but I have not done that. It's no fun, that's for sure.
 
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Old Jul 31, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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Thanks for the reply, didn't know what was involved, just figured it wasn't easy.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2009 | 12:05 AM
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I regularly slide large pallets of tile into the bed of my truck and have just a couple nicks here and there after 8 years of use. The floor of my bed is sagging and bowed in a couple spots from weight over the years, but the liner has held strong. I should hope yours could handle a table or chairs. I think they will realize that yours is not up to standard.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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Update: well i went and talked with them on Friday, and they (very apologetically) informed me that my liner was WAY too thin, and didnt know how it happened. Truck was dropped off this morning and they are coming over on my lunch break to take me back to my truck.

I told them that i will be hauling landscaping pavers and rocks in the coming weeks and that it needs to stand up to that, they garanteed me that it would....we shall see...
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 01:03 PM
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That's good news, at least they're treating you right. Thanks for the update.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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George6488, im glad that you found something that works for you. but for me i bought the spray in liner so that i didnt have to put anything else in there. to me it sounds kind of rediculous to put a bedliner on to protect your bedliner which protects your bed. hahaha

although the more i think about what im prolly going to have to reinvest in this bedliner, i may want to go your rout so that I can protect my investment

Same idea...........if you have floor mats in your truck
 
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