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Old Jul 20, 2009 | 08:12 PM
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Changing rear diff gears for towing

I have a 95 F250 4wd 351 ci with 3.55 rear end . I have a couple of car trailers
I tow and would like a little more power when doing it . Can I go to a set
of 4.1 gears and be ok ? Is this difficult and exspensive ? Thanks in advance .
 
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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It's a good idea IMO. Any good driveline shop can do it for you. Reports are it will cost you $750-$1,000 per axle for the gears and installation.

I don't think it would be a DIY job.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 05:04 PM
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And remember that if you swap the rear gears you also have to swap the front gears...
IMO if you want more towing power, you need to put the 351 to bed and upgrade to something with a bigger motor.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Yeah, $1,500+ is a lot to spend on a 1995 truck, but then, we haven't seen the truck.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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Thanks Bill . the thing is I priced out a new F350 with V10 and decided I
didn't want to spend that much , so I thought if I could change gears I
could get the job done with less money . You make a good point about the 351 , although a good engine it is probably up against it when towing .
I guess I will just keep buying lottery tickets and who knows .
Dan
 
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan Smithwick
Thanks Bill . the thing is I priced out a new F350 with V10 and decided I
didn't want to spend that much , so I thought if I could change gears I
could get the job done with less money . You make a good point about the 351 , although a good engine it is probably up against it when towing .
I guess I will just keep buying lottery tickets and who knows .
Dan
The 351 will pull, but don't expect it to do it fast or with ease. Re-gearing isn't cheap though on a 4x4, you could probably take the $1500 or so it was estimated to cost, sell your truck, and use the combined amount to buy a similar year truck with a 460 or a diesel and have a better tow rig in the end. Or if you don't pull that often, just don't worry about it
 
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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What size tires you running? Smaller diameter tires (of the correct load range) will help lower your effective ratio, too.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 08:08 PM
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Swapping gears on an already paid for truck is always cheaper than buying a new truck.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2009 | 09:07 PM
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Assuming you have 0.74:1 Overdrive,
3.55 gears on 31" tires 70mph at 2000rpms
4.11 gears on 31" tires 61mph at 2000rpms
4.56 gears on 31" tires 55mph at 2000rpms

now if you're running 35" tires
3.55 gears, 79mph at 2000rpms
4.11 gears, 68mph at 2000rpms
4.56 gears, 62mph at 2000rpms

an engine has a sweet spot somewhere between 1700 and 2500rpms. This is where you will most likely want your cruise speed to be.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 07:08 AM
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Thanks for the information , nice looking truck you have .
Dan
 
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 11:00 AM
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I think for now I am going to stay with what I have . I am about to put new rotors and pads on . What wheel nut socket do I need ? I think
OTC # 7158 but not that sure . I don't know what axle I have , I do have
4 inch diameter hubs if that helps . Thanks in advance .
 
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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I'd suspect a 10.5/10.25 in the rear and a dana 60 upfront in some variation. If it's 4wd, you shouldn't have to pull the hubs to get the rotors off, the ones I've messed with were a top hat like rear rotors. If it's 2wd It's probably got a castle cover over a big regular hex nut.

Thanks.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ReAX
I'd suspect a 10.5/10.25 in the rear and a dana 60 upfront in some variation. If it's 4wd, you shouldn't have to pull the hubs to get the rotors off, the ones I've messed with were a top hat like rear rotors. If it's 2wd It's probably got a castle cover over a big regular hex nut.

Thanks.
D50 TTB up front and Sterling 10.25 rear. Yes, you have to pull the hubs on the D50 TTB to remove the rotors... they are behind the hub flange. STUPID design!
 
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Old Jul 22, 2009 | 07:53 PM
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Yes I discovered it is indeed a dana 50 so I will be getting the socket for
the bearing nut . Thanks
 
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