rebuilt motor need help
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i did about 30 to 45 seconds cranks...... but like i said i had it running for about a min. or two but it was cause i had the fuel rag over the throttlebody and it was starting with the fumes on the rag and as soon as i pulled the rag off it turned off..... wouldnt that prime the system
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Good to have you back on the boards Tony!
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i did about 30 to 45 seconds cranks...... but like i said i had it running for about a min. or two but it was cause i had the fuel rag over the throttlebody and it was starting with the fumes on the rag and as soon as i pulled the rag off it turned off..... wouldnt that prime the system
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i did about 30 to 45 seconds cranks...... but like i said i had it running for about a min. or two but it was cause i had the fuel rag over the throttlebody and it was starting with the fumes on the rag and as soon as i pulled the rag off it turned off..... wouldnt that prime the system
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o ok well the motor is the orignal motor out of the truck i just pulled it out and rebuilt it...so everything came with the 04 truck....
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If you have shop air it is very easy to test the HPO system.It is best if you have a scan tool to command the IPR closed but it doesn't sound like you have one.You either cut the IPR wires and splice leads that reach the battery or find a donor harness and cut the IPR or VGT connector out and use it.The IPR will shut completely with 12 volts applyed but only for a short time as to not fry the IPR (30 seconds or so) at a time,you can also start to fill the system with air using a 9 volt battery until the oil stops bubling then use the 12 volt.Take out the ICP and rig up a air hose with the same thread.Thinking about the ICP try to start the truck with it unplugged,if it starts with it unplugged and the computer defaulted then it is very likely a HPO leak or a bad sensor,don't let it run long if it does start until you figure exactly what is wrong as the injectors won't be happy.You will hear the IPR click when the wires are applyed correctly to the 12v battery.
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k i tried to start it with the icp sensor out and nothing happened so i figured it wasnt the icp so now that leaves me with the HPOP right???? i know its new but the truck has been sitting for about a year or so but it was all in a shop.... my dad did take the HPO tubes apart and clean them up could that be a problem... he has delt with diesel but this has got him stuck also
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There are a few Ford video's that may help you w/ the HPO system.
You can start w/ this one (start at slide 21 or there abouts) and I will keep looking ........
<TABLE style="WIDTH: 455pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=607 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 455pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 22198" width=607><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 25.5pt" height=34><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow; WIDTH: 455pt; HEIGHT: 25.5pt; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8" class=xl24 height=34 width=607>http://turbodieselforums.com/diesel_6.pdf</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Also:
mms://multimedia.ford.com/fordstar/66920.wmv
(paste the address above in your browser)
35:45 - HPO system updated components
40:00 HPO diagnostics
42:00 - locations of common HPO leaks
44:35 - Fuel flow pressure tester
55:55 Q&A w/ techs
1:10:43 - discussion of HPO system and IPR screen debris and IPR diagnostics
You can start w/ this one (start at slide 21 or there abouts) and I will keep looking ........
<TABLE style="WIDTH: 455pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=607 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 455pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 22198" width=607><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 25.5pt" height=34><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow; WIDTH: 455pt; HEIGHT: 25.5pt; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8" class=xl24 height=34 width=607>http://turbodieselforums.com/diesel_6.pdf</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Also:
mms://multimedia.ford.com/fordstar/66920.wmv
(paste the address above in your browser)
35:45 - HPO system updated components
40:00 HPO diagnostics
42:00 - locations of common HPO leaks
44:35 - Fuel flow pressure tester
55:55 Q&A w/ techs
1:10:43 - discussion of HPO system and IPR screen debris and IPR diagnostics
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One more video that MIGHT help:
<TABLE style="WIDTH: 327pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=436 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 327pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 15945" width=436><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 124.5pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=166><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow; WIDTH: 327pt; HEIGHT: 124.5pt; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8" class=xl24 height=166 width=436>mms://multimedia.ford.com/seopts/Tech11_250k.wmv</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
HPOP and IPR and IPR screen Diagnosis - replace pump and clean HP oil rail (22:30)
Don't mind helping at all! Good luck to you.
<TABLE style="WIDTH: 327pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=436 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 327pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 15945" width=436><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 124.5pt; mso-height-source: userset" height=166><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #d4d0c8; BORDER-LEFT: #d4d0c8; BACKGROUND-COLOR: yellow; WIDTH: 327pt; HEIGHT: 124.5pt; BORDER-TOP: #d4d0c8; BORDER-RIGHT: #d4d0c8" class=xl24 height=166 width=436>mms://multimedia.ford.com/seopts/Tech11_250k.wmv</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
HPOP and IPR and IPR screen Diagnosis - replace pump and clean HP oil rail (22:30)
Don't mind helping at all! Good luck to you.
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ok so i check the pressure on the icp fitting and it had no pressure at all... i know before we pulled the motor apart a year ago i had the dealership replace the HPOP... so i pulled the oil cooler to check if there was oil in the valley and it was full... i then pulled the IPR to see the end of it and there was no screen is it supposed to be like that??? I AM SO F-ING LOST........
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Replace the ipr valve, if there is no screen then that will cause a no start, first use a mirror and light to see if the old screen is stuck in the pump cover. Use a pick to remove it. Then install new ipr and reck. Even dents in that screen can cause havoc on icp pressure.