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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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Intermittant No Start

O K guys guess it's my turn. I have my own ideas but want yours without me polluting yours.
Happened once before about 2 months ago. Happened again this morning. Outside temp about 70 degrees and 1st start of the morning. Turn key and the truck turns over normal, good rotation but no start after cranking for 5 to 7 seconds. Let off key for 3 to 5 seconds, hit key again and it fires right up. Starts normal the rest of the day and if history repeats itself will probably start normal again for a month or two. All maintenance on this truck is annally kept up. No codes.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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if you have scaner you can monitor HPOP and ICP while cranking. it might be IPR sticking or dirty, or ICP sensor. thats the only ideas i have ...
 
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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Thanks Pete, good suggestions, I am going to see how many replies I get and see what the majority consesus is. Of course it will probably be the one off odd ball item causing it. Dealership has 2 other trucks in right now that have same symptoms and nothing is showing up after 3 days of testing on them. They are a good dealer with 4 certed diesel techs.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 06:18 PM
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no problem, make sure post up an update when you get to the bottom of it... especially if its a odd ball things...
 
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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If I don't get to the solution by next month it will probably show to be a no brainer when I'm in the Sierras and needing a 200 mile tow for the truck and 5er. lol
 
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 06:41 PM
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i hope it wont come to this, but if you dont find it just buy ICP and IPR and keep it in the tool box with the tools needed to change either one of them....
 
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 06:46 PM
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The most common things i run into are a failed snap to connector,failed pump seal ,dummy plug seal in the high pressure oil rail.some times u see a fuel injector rail seal blow out or a oil pressure regulator stick in the bypass position and dump oil back into the oil pan.thats all i can come up with.the sensor and oil pressre regulator soilnoid do fail to..my 2 cents
 
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by l-m tech
The most common things i run into are a failed snap to connector,failed pump seal ,dummy plug seal in the high pressure oil rail.some times u see a fuel injector rail seal blow out or a oil pressure regulator stick in the bypass position and dump oil back into the oil pan.thats all i can come up with.the sensor and oil pressre regulator soilnoid do fail to..my 2 cents
well if he is having intermitent issues, than it cannot be any seals blown out for sure, cause it would be a dead truck- no start.
so its a sticking issue, and my money is on IPR since if its stuck in open position will not build HPO and in sequence wont fire injectors.
and yeah that snap to connect is an issue. thanks for pointing that out.
 
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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I would tend to lean towards a sensor or wire chaffing, but it seems like you might see it shut down unexpectedly also w/ one of these problems.

Sorry you have to mess w/ the issue!!!

Keep us informed.
 
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At 1st I was leaning towards stc fitting but the more I think about it, logically it wouldn't be the 1st start of the day when the oil is its thickest. Would think it would be more prevalent after warm up.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 69cj
At 1st I was leaning towards stc fitting but the more I think about it, logically it wouldn't be the 1st start of the day when the oil is its thickest. Would think it would be more prevalent after warm up.
I would agree w/ your logic for sure.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 02:37 PM
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I would lean towords an electrical issue my 2 cents.FICM going south maybe,are the other two trucks in the shop 05s.I have a TSB on my other computer that has the 05 motors with strange issues that relate to ficm codes and a updated flash, but am a 1000 miles from it so can't post it to see if your issues fit the TSB.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 03:13 PM
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I found the TSB in a my User CP https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ml#post7544690
 
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