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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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CCV Mod Bad?

I was talking to one of my members, he's over in the NBS forums though. They saying over there that CCV Mod is bad, especially if set up into the exhaust.

I believe that Cuda Jim here is all for the exhaust CCV mod, correct?

It seems correct to me. I know if you do it wrong, it is bad for the motor, your just blowing exhaust into the crank case.

Maybe we should discuss the pro's and cons of the CCV, exhaust ran and not.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 10:06 AM
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ccv to the exhaust is bad ... itr creates pressure that u dont want ...
ccv to open air is the way International intended
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 12:03 PM
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how can it create pressure?

It is currently setup to pull a vacuum from the intake.
You set it up to do the same thing with the exhaust.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 12:16 PM
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if you plumb it into the exhaust incorrectly then its bad news, if you do it properly it creates a significant vacum and draws the vapor/fumes/pressure out of the motor
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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That's what I thought Joe.

Why the NBS guys so against it?

You just get a vacuum tester and adjust it for the best vacuum and tack it in with the welder.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 12:21 PM
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they may not know the proper way? perhaps thats just what they were taught? in theory removing the factory vent design and venting to atmosphere is worse on the engine- the stock design draws the vapor and pressure out of the engine, venting to atmosphere actually allows it to build up and have to vent on its own.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 01:42 PM
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I saw a truck run on a dyno with the ccv tube tied into the exhaust at a 45* angle, what i thought was the right way to do it. Ended up presurizing the oil pan and blew the dipstick out, oily mess all over.

I would not run the ccv to the exhaust for any reason after seeing that.
I have mine dump under the driver's feet and you can see blow-by there at any time you want, so I doubt very much it's a problem and certainly isn't backing up in the motor...

The only reason I did mine was due to a larger turbo, so I didn't have to figure out how to plumb the dang thing in there with the custom made intakes etc. The stock trucks I have/had I didn't see a reason to bother with it.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Talyn
Why the NBS guys so against it?
as a NBS guy i can say "we" are not against it its actually recommended

the way it was explained to me is that the ccv adapted to the exhaust causes a build up pf pressure ... not the venturi effect one would think

the reason us nbs guys do it very often as one of the 1st mods is the oil vapor enters the intake continues through the turbo and into the intercooler pipes... the factory intercooler boots are made of silicone which is not oil resistant...
after some time the boots breakdown and they blow off under high boost
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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In the example offered by DZL Jim re the CCV entering the exhaust at a 45* angle, what we don't know is, was the tube welded at that angle without a protrusion inside the exhaust? If it did protrude, how far and at what angle was the end of the tube cut at? 90*? 45*? ??? There are many variables that are unknown to someone else's failed installation.

If this mod is done "properly" I just don't understand how it could possibly cause pressure to the crankcase.

Just for clarification: I have mine vented to the atmosphere at the rear wheels.

Rog
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by c00nhunterjoe
if you plumb it into the exhaust incorrectly then its bad news, if you do it properly it creates a significant vacum and draws the vapor/fumes/pressure out of the motor
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Originally Posted by DZL JIM
I saw a truck run on a dyno with the ccv tube tied into the exhaust at a 45* angle, what i thought was the right way to do it. Ended up presurizing the oil pan and blew the dipstick out, oily mess all over.

I would not run the ccv to the exhaust for any reason after seeing that.
I have mine dump under the driver's feet and you can see blow-by there at any time you want, so I doubt very much it's a problem and certainly isn't backing up in the motor...
Jim is right. Dump it to atomosphere and be done.

Cowboy Steve
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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If it's done right it WILL pull a vacuum.
I've done more than most and I always try to help show others how to do it. It's not rocket science but you need to follow the instructions.
Look here:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...ccv-flack.html

BTW: you really don't need to do it unless you have an intercooler.
It will keep the oil out of the IC and keeps the boots from blowing off due to oil soaking them.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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I saw a CCV kit for $100 somewhere, can't remember what website. I know you can make it your self for alot cheaper, but how are the kits for our trucks???
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuda_jim
If it's done right it WILL pull a vacuum.
I've done more than most and I always try to help show others how to do it. It's not rocket science but you need to follow the instructions.
Look here:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...cv-flack.html.
I hate to argue with ya Jim but tests have shown it dosn't not work properly. Fills the crankcase with fumes and most time excessive pressure.

Like I said, vent it to atomosphere and be done with it

Cowboy Steve
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Epd444
I saw a CCV kit for $100 somewhere, can't remember what website. I know you can make it your self for alot cheaper, but how are the kits for our trucks???
clay at riff raff has then $100 but i could be wrong

ps if doing it urself use fuel line not heater hose ...heater hose will break down over time
 
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Old Jul 5, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rat49f6
clay at riff raff has then $100 but i could be wrong

ps if doing it urself use fuel line not heater hose ...heater hose will break down over time
Where are you going to find 3/4" fuel line??

Rog
 
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