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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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EGT questions

so i have been told that running higher Rpm will lover egt is this true... sounds weird due to the fact that the engine is working harder..

and if this is true should i tow with OD off because with it on im only pushing 1600-2000 i don't want my egts to run high??
 
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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Best thing to do is stick in a gauge so you can monitor the EGT's. Lugging the engine can cause the EGT's to spike, so higher RPM's are better there because of more airflow. Running the truck at WOT can also cause the EGT's to spike with a tuner, so higher RPM's are bad there. That's why gauges are so popular with a good chip or tuner. These engines are too expensive to play guessing games when you start modifying them.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 07:37 PM
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agreed its just hard to come up with $300 for them
 
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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agreed its just hard to come up with $300 for them
Yes, that is the pits. Have you checked what a engine will cost? How do you know what the EGT's are without gauges??? If you are running those EGT's, that is way to high.

I just looked again and I think you are talking RPMs. Right?
 
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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You need gauges if you run a tuner,chip and pull and thing. At least a EGT gauge
 
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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Not to hijack a thread here, but I too am shopping for guages and have questions. How important is it to monitor EGT and boost pressure? I only wanted a Tranny temp guage 'till I started shopping and see lots of sets that also include EGT and Boost pressure guages. My truck isn't chipped, but I pull a 13,000 lb 5th wheel. Like the OP, I don't need to be spending money I don't have on things I don't necessarily need. So please help me understand if I shoud go with all three, just tranny and EGT, or just tranny. Please give reasons, (not just opinions).
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by crazer42
so i have been told that running higher Rpm will lover egt is this true... sounds weird due to the fact that the engine is working harder..

and if this is true should i tow with OD off because with it on im only pushing 1600-2000 i don't want my egts to run high??
Higher RPMs can actually lower your temps sometimes when towing, when you lug your engine down the temps spike pretty fast (like when it shifts into OD and your trying to accelerate), and the higher RPMs will increase your boost which will lower your temps.

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Yes, that is the pits. Have you checked what a engine will cost? How do you know what the EGT's are without gauges??? If you are running those EGT's, that is way to high.

I just looked again and I think you are talking RPMs. Right?
I hope he is too, If hes talking temps then hes going to be looking at a new block SOON...

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Not to hijack a thread here, but I too am shopping for guages and have questions. How important is it to monitor EGT and boost pressure? I only wanted a Tranny temp guage 'till I started shopping and see lots of sets that also include EGT and Boost pressure guages. My truck isn't chipped, but I pull a 13,000 lb 5th wheel. Like the OP, I don't need to be spending money I don't have on things I don't necessarily need. So please help me understand if I shoud go with all three, just tranny and EGT, or just tranny. Please give reasons, (not just opinions).
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The few hundred bucks you pay for all three will be better than the few grand you pay for new a new engine. If your EGTs get too high your put a window in your block via a melted rod. They melt at 1200 degrees. The boost gauge on a stock truck isnt that important, you wont get close to blowing the turbo on stock tunnning. It will help you try to figure out some options if your truck isnt running right though (low boost from a leak somewhere will cause the EGTs to spike higher). I didnt explain the trans temp since you already want one.

Basiclly your paying the 3-4 hundred to monitor your truck to prevent some pretty expensive damage.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by That_Guy
Higher RPMs can actually lower your temps sometimes when towing, when you lug your engine down the temps spike pretty fast (like when it shifts into OD and your trying to accelerate), and the higher RPMs will increase your boost which will lower your temps.



I hope he is too, If hes talking temps then hes going to be looking at a new block SOON...



The few hundred bucks you pay for all three will be better than the few grand you pay for new a new engine. If your EGTs get too high your put a window in your block via a melted rod. They melt at 1200 degrees. The boost gauge on a stock truck isnt that important, you wont get close to blowing the turbo on stock tunnning. It will help you try to figure out some options if your truck isnt running right though (low boost from a leak somewhere will cause the EGTs to spike higher). I didnt explain the trans temp since you already want one.

Basiclly your paying the 3-4 hundred to monitor your truck to prevent some pretty expensive damage.

Well put Chris...
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 12:34 AM
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When I got 15k or higher on my trailer I find it's best to stay up over 2k.. anything under and the temps really wanna get hot..
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 12:48 AM
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Well put Chris...
Thank you Clay, Mr. Daniels helped me on that one too though..
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bunklash
Not to hijack a thread here, but I too am shopping for guages and have questions. How important is it to monitor EGT and boost pressure? I only wanted a Tranny temp guage 'till I started shopping and see lots of sets that also include EGT and Boost pressure guages. My truck isn't chipped, but I pull a 13,000 lb 5th wheel. Like the OP, I don't need to be spending money I don't have on things I don't necessarily need. So please help me understand if I shoud go with all three, just tranny and EGT, or just tranny. Please give reasons, (not just opinions).
Thanks
Check out powerstrokehelp.com,- "EGTs the silent 7.3 killer".
I'm certainly not an expert, but from what I have heard and seen, a few simple moifications (intake, exhaust, and tuner) allow these trucks to perform much better than in "stock trim", with no apparent sacrifice (MPGs or longevity). The question I have asked myself is; why didn't Ford sell them this way? I believe it is to make them more idiot proof. They tune them so that it would be difficult to damage them, with the greater performance comes greater resposibility. I certainly appreciate the increased pulling power, throttle response, and fuel economy I have experienced with the few mods I have done; but with them I accept the the fact that I must now monitor things more closely. I can't hook up to 10 000 lb load and blindly tear up a mountain road. I may be decieving myself, but I think it makes me a better driver.

Even with no modifications, it's a good idea to know what is going on under the hood. I'm sure you could exceed safe EGTs even stock, just not as quickly. As far as the tranmission temp gauge goes, I would not tow without one. Boost gauge is not necessary until you get into even more mods, but for the cost, I think it's worth having.

I'm sure others will be able to give more specific information, and I hope we can help you decide the best course of action.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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Check out powerstrokehelp.com,- "EGTs the silent 7.3 killer".
Stay away from Powerstrokehelp.com. The guy in the videos is clueless to how Powerstrokes actually work, and he rips off his customers. His videos appear helpful, but the guy does more harm than good. He is full of misinformation.

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Even with no modifications, it's a good idea to know what is going on under the hood. I'm sure you could exceed safe EGTs even stock, just not as quickly. As far as the tranmission temp gauge goes, I would not tow without one. Boost gauge is not necessary until you get into even more mods, but for the cost, I think it's worth having.
Excellent advice here.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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As usual, ya'll have come up with the goods! I had an idea the boost guage is more for high performance stuff, but who knows, I may end up getting a tuner someday. So I'll shop for a three guage and hope I can arrange delivery somewhere. We're off for the summer and traveling the West. We are in Colorado Springs now, maybe I can arrange delivery to thhe campground. I really don't want to pull through 100 degree weather without guages. In the meantime, I'll watch my RPM's and remain grateful for all the help I get from FTE!
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by bunklash
As usual, ya'll have come up with the goods! I had an idea the boost guage is more for high performance stuff, but who knows, I may end up getting a tuner someday. So I'll shop for a three guage and hope I can arrange delivery somewhere. We're off for the summer and traveling the West. We are in Colorado Springs now, maybe I can arrange delivery to thhe campground. I really don't want to pull through 100 degree weather without guages. In the meantime, I'll watch my RPM's and remain grateful for all the help I get from FTE!
I would be happy to help you get delivery of what ever you decide to go with for now. Let me know if I can help.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 02:14 PM
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[quote=Pocket;7659433]Stay away from Powerstrokehelp.com. The guy in the videos is clueless to how Powerstrokes actually work, and he rips off his customers. His videos appear helpful, but the guy does more harm than good. He is full of misinformation.

Thanks for the heads-up. His videos did appear helpful. I had him on my favorites. Can you give me an example of misinformation?
 
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