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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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I'm in the process of choosing what carb to top off my motor with. My current build specs are.

Cam undecided either comp 260H or 268H.
Bored 30 over with silvolite 1138 pistons
C6AE-R heads if it matters
Stock 4bbl intake
1 3/4 headers 2.5 in exhaust
Auto trans 4:10 gears

I was thinking in the 700 cfm range. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ford150/428/dud
I'm in the process of choosing what carb to top off my motor with. My current build specs are.

Cam undecided either comp 260H or 268H.
Bored 30 over with silvolite 1138 pistons
C6AE-R heads if it matters
Stock 4bbl intake
1 3/4 headers 2.5 in exhaust
Auto trans 4:10 gears

I was thinking in the 700 cfm range. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks
Nick
You are about right. 735-780 depending on what you are doing with it.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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Great now I just have to save the green to go out and get one, I was defiantly liking at the Holley 4160.

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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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Uh, what engine size? I'm assuming 428 because of your handle?
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 03:33 PM
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Yup its a 428, It nearly a pay check to paycheck money pit.

So far I have the following done.

16 new guides.
Hardened exhaust seats.
Resurfaced heads, and exhaust sides
Block bored 30 over
Crank was ground 10/10
Balanced with the weighted flywheel
Ordered the rebuild kit

I have yet to acquire.

Headers.
Cam kit with locks/springs blah blah blah still making up mind
Carburetor
Finish building my trans
Clean and paint parts
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ford150/428/dud
Yup its a 428, It nearly a pay check to paycheck money pit.

So far I have the following done.

16 new guides.
Hardened exhaust seats.
Resurfaced heads, and exhaust sides
Block bored 30 over
Crank was ground 10/10
Balanced with the weighted flywheel
Ordered the rebuild kit

I have yet to acquire.

Headers.
Cam kit with locks/springs blah blah blah still making up mind
Carburetor
Finish building my trans
Clean and paint parts
When you balance your engine, you need the crank, rod, piston, ring, piston pin, flywheel. We race our 428's so we do the extra of machining the rods to weigh the same as the lightest rod. We always purchase new forged pistons that are matched at the factory, but we always check them to make sure they are the same weight. If you are using used pistons, you could machine the heavier pistons to the weight of the lightest one. Blue printing an engine consists of many things, one of which is to check the clearance of the piston pin to the pistons. They almost always are to tight. An engine built correctly is like a watch made in Switzerland. A 428 is a great engine, and built right will make lots of power and last you a long time. Our 428 "434" made 587 hp.n.a., partly because we took the time to blue print the entire engine.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Well, matching the rods to the lightest one, and the same with the pistons, isn't really an "extra" to a balance job, it's the basics- all the rod/piston/ring assemblies matched, and that's your bobweight- then the crank/dampener/flywheel is balanced to the bobweight. Any rod bolt changes, polishing, clearancing, etc., should be done, then match the rods by machining on the balance pads- basic
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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Exactly tonight I gathered all of my rotating parts so they can be dropped off at the making shop. I believe what the machinist said was that he is going to keep the weight on the flex plate.And just balance it that way.

Otherwise the other option I had was to go full internal using a internal balanced flex plate and adding weight to the crank, which is a little more expensive. I figured since this is a mild build and wont see high revs, keeping it external will be just fine.

Which doesn't really bother me as long as my whole rotating assembly is balanced correctly.

You don't happen to know off hand, the web site that has all of the casting numbers for FE heads, intakes, and blocks. It shows the original year and engine they were used on??????
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MeanGene427
Well, matching the rods to the lightest one, and the same with the pistons, isn't really an "extra" to a balance job, it's the basics- all the rod/piston/ring assemblies matched, and that's your bobweight- then the crank/dampener/flywheel is balanced to the bobweight. Any rod bolt changes, polishing, clearancing, etc., should be done, then match the rods by machining on the balance pads- basic
What I mean by extra is that some people do not balance their assembly at all, but on a 428 it is critical. Some guys are working on a budget and can not afford to balance their engines. What I was trying to point out, is that since he had a 428, go the extra mile and do it right the first time. Some people do not know what a balance consists of. If you read his post he said that he had the crank balanced with the flywheel, I was pointing out that he needed to balance the whole assembly. Some of the guys are working on their very first engine, and we can not assume that they know how to do it correctly.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ford150/428/dud
Exactly tonight I gathered all of my rotating parts so they can be dropped off at the making shop. I believe what the machinist said was that he is going to keep the weight on the flex plate.And just balance it that way.

Otherwise the other option I had was to go full internal using a internal balanced flex plate and adding weight to the crank, which is a little more expensive. I figured since this is a mild build and wont see high revs, keeping it external will be just fine.
For what you're doing, one engine that's going to stay in one vehicle with one flexplate, should be fine. I tend to neutral balance them, especially if it's an expensive one anyway, like a Scat stroker setup, so I only have to have one type of flywheel/flexplates, all neutral, and interchangable. It does get a little expensive though, a couple slugs of Mallory metal and the labor to install them correctly will cut into your budget a bit
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ford150/428/dud
Exactly tonight I gathered all of my rotating parts so they can be dropped off at the making shop. I believe what the machinist said was that he is going to keep the weight on the flex plate.And just balance it that way.

Otherwise the other option I had was to go full internal using a internal balanced flex plate and adding weight to the crank, which is a little more expensive. I figured since this is a mild build and wont see high revs, keeping it external will be just fine.

Which doesn't really bother me as long as my whole rotating assembly is balanced correctly.

You don't happen to know off hand, the web site that has all of the casting numbers for FE heads, intakes, and blocks. It shows the original year and engine they were used on??????
What do you consider high revs?
 
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Old Jun 30, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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I suppose that this varies from person to person depending on their use and weight of foot, but I would set my limit at about around 4500.

I really have no clue I mean its not getting raced at all. I should just ask whats reasonable?? I want this to last a while and by a while I mean 15 maybe 20 years with reliability, unless I decided to place some more speed parts on it. So anything above the 4500 mark to me would seem that its a little excessive.

Although I'm not saying I'm setting a rev limiter at 4500 so testing the waters one toe at a time may happen.
 
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