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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 09:04 PM
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I recently started using the 2 stroke oil, and I have seen some decent gains in mpg. It sure seems to me that the fuel injectors will be getting plenty of lubrication now. I always questioned just how much lubrication the Diesel Kleen was giving them.
I guess the big question is, just how often to use injector cleaner, anyone have any thoughts? (06 F250 PSD CC Lariat)
 
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Old Jun 25, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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How much MPGS?
 
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 03:38 AM
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I think I may have to try this. Sounds like some good results to be had. Think I will continue with the additive as well. Maybe a 50/50 mix as others have done.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 06:41 AM
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I have been following (and refraining from commenting) the threads on two-cycle oil for quite some time. I have never tried it because I chose to add a mix of biodiesel (to achieve a 2% mix) and 8 oz of Stanadyne. They work very well for me - just turned 50k and got 20 mpg on my trip home from work yesterday.

At some point, I must say that I sort of expected folks to begin to suspect that the two-cycle oil was causing issues (like more EGR issues, etc). After several years of following these threads, I can say I have never seen any threads from users of two-cycle oil that have indicated suspected problems caused by its use.

On the flip side, I do not believe the use of two-cycle oil as a fuel additive will improve cetane levels, BTU value of the fuel, OR fuel economy. I just don't see how it can. I also wonder if the quietness is really a good indication of less wear and improved reliability. There are many folks w/ 130k+ on the original injectors that do not use the two stroke oil (some that do not use any additives).

Just some thinking out loud ..............................

I may try it soon - I would like to hear the noise difference. If I keep using more additives though, will there be any room left for the fuel ???

Edit (just as an fyi) - I plan on staying w/ my current biodiesel/stanadyne mix long term. I am a believer in boosting cetane, demulsifying water, preventing gelling, boosting corrosion and soot control, AND adding lubricity - all as a complete package. Not saying that additives will do all that by themselves, but I believe they IMPROVE these functions.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 07:12 AM
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Mark....was waiting for you to chime in....since I value your thoughts and opinions on most 6.0L topics...I'd be very interested in your results and afterthoughts (if you try it)....I'll be monitoring this topic a little longer.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:50 AM
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I am using 2-stroke until I build up enough equipment to haul bio diesel in... can't find any in my area. The noise reduction was slight but I did notice a little. Though I didn't expect, it i gained 2-4mpg (same fuel stops, almost the same speeds got to slow down for the construction zone now). I drive about 150 miles a day.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 09:52 AM
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I have been using it for a couple of months now and have noticed the quieter injectors but have not noticed any fuel milage increase or decrease to speak of. I usually squeeze in about 30 gals per fill up so 1 qrt goes in each time. I dont expect that the 2 extra ounces will hurt anything and a gatorade 1 qrt bottle makes an easy measuring device.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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The sound difference : it's not as quiet as a DMAX but those are whisper quiet, and no where near as loud as a cummins, but you will tell a difference pretty quick. It took me about 1/2 a tank to really start ot notice. Hopefully it will get quieter as the more full I burn. As of MPG's can't tell yet we haven't went anywhere but work.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 12:09 AM
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I use Super Tech and Motorcraft Cetaine booster
 
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 05:15 AM
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I use the exact same configuration, and buy the Motorcraft in 1 gallon cans.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 02:05 PM
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The service advisor I spoke with yesterday when I got my truck back from the $7k of repairs says he uses about 1/4qt of tranny fluid in his fuel for a lubricant...anyone try that?
 
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Old Jun 27, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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I put transmission fluid once in a while in my 1989 IDI, But remember it turns the fuel red. Put 2 stroke, 1 oz per gallon in a 5 gallon gas can and watch it turn your fuel blue. I always have 10 gallon in the shed for emergency's and its blue for my 6.0 The red fuel could cause problems if for some reason you were checked.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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The service advisor I spoke with yesterday when I got my truck back from the $7k of repairs says he uses about 1/4qt of tranny fluid in his fuel for a lubricant...anyone try that?
In the old days, some did this... but tranny fluid is a lubricating fluid and not meant to be burned in the cumbustion process... so for this reason alone, I would not use.

I am still reviewing this site and many others to see if I amy try the 2-stroke oil mixture.... but with 150,000 problem free miles on my 2003, I am hesitant to do it.

At least I have now posted, so I will be up to date on this thread.

Thanks,
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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Its a little soon to see what my actual fuel gains will be, it seems to be about 2mpg in town but I haven't seen much heavy traffic.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2009 | 10:02 PM
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I didn't notice any difference good or not so good. But it did get quieter................
 
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