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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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Will this make me be able to chirp the tires going into second? I want very firm shifts.

Thanks OP!
it will give you some nice hard shifts. theres a few kits out there for the e40d, even some fancy electronic controllers which let you have a few different settings.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SideWinder4.9l
Again, many thanks guys....Sorry 'boutthe bother, just new with the site, etc....

Also, seem to be having trouble finding out how to edit some things on here if you guys will kindly show the way, so to speak....

Again Thanks all-

-Wes
You can edit your post very easily. Look at the bottom of your post. See where it says EDIT?

If I were you, I would seriously look into doing a gear ratio swap to 3.73 or 4.10. You do have OD right?
 
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 09:28 PM
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it will give you some nice hard shifts. theres a few kits out there for the e40d, even some fancy electronic controllers which let you have a few different settings.

Thanks bro
 
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 10:07 PM
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yep, Auto W/ Overdrive.....Again you allthe best guys for advice....

And I meant to edit like a small decription of the truck on me posts.....

Thanks all-

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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 10:15 PM
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hey sidewinder i want a sticker like the one in your pick (for my truck)...that used to be my msn name HAHA

and if you really want to get into this inline performance go to the link below, its a site dedicated to ford inline 6 performance really great site...

Fordsix Performance • Index page

i love my big 6
 
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SideWinder4.9l
yep, Auto W/ Overdrive.....Again you allthe best guys for advice....

And I meant to edit like a small decription of the truck on me posts.....

Thanks all-

-Wes
Hey Wes, stick around FTE, don't disapear like a lot of guys do. Keep us updated on what you do with your truck!!!
 
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 06:53 AM
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No, as of right now I have no reason to leave, etc......
But as far as hp/tq go for a maybe a cam/lifter upgrade, intake and exhaust upgrade and 4.11 rear end?

And again, thanks guys....

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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by SideWinder4.9l
No, as of right now I have no reason to leave, etc......
But as far as hp/tq go for a maybe a cam/lifter upgrade, intake and exhaust upgrade and 4.11 rear end?

And again, thanks guys....

-Wes
I wouldn't worry about exhaust too much. You have EFI manifolds right? I forgot what year your truck is. EFI manifolds work pretty well, but if you are really serious about all this, just like 9.ford.5 said, long tubes wouldn't be bad. The thing is people have a lot of trouble getting these things to seal. You can't go wrong with the EFI manifolds though. You could cut off both of your cats and replace them with one three way cat and run a full length straight pipe, 2.25''.

I lost low end torque when I took my muffler off, so I'm leary about telling you what you could do to your exhaust for more power. I will say my motor revved easier though. I'll let other guys recomend to you what you should do for power. I've always messed with my exhaust for sound, not power. My gears do the talking when it comes to pulling.

Also, what kind of power band are you looking for with your truck? Are you wanting to eat 350 V8's off the line? If so, the 4.10's will help you with this, but keep in mind they will eat your top end alive. You'll still be able to cruise at 70+, but the power just isn't there like it is with higher gears. Just something to keep in mind. That's why I said look into 3.73, also.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 08:46 AM
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350 v8? Darned chebbies.....lol

Well, here is me inspiration bill:
In me 1991 Crown Victoria LTD 351w I had 14g alumized steel, 2 1/4" exhaust w/ an h-pipe, silver bullet glasspacks and stainless steel tips for a grand total of $260.....seems to have improved mpg's somewhat, boosted torque slighltly and it sounds pretty nice IMO....Was wondering if a simialar setup would work on the truck?

Thanks guys-Bill


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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SideWinder4.9l
350 v8? Darned chebbies.....lol

Well, here is me inspiration bill:
In me 1991 Crown Victoria LTD 351w I had 14g alumized steel, 2 1/4" exhaust w/ an h-pipe, silver bullet glasspacks and stainless steel tips for a grand total of $260.....seems to have improved mpg's somewhat, boosted torque slighltly and it sounds pretty nice IMO....Was wondering if a simialar setup would work on the truck?

Thanks guys-Bill


-Wes
Yes, it would work, but keep it one single exhaust pipe. The 300 makes five liters (ford calls it 4.9 but it's really a 5.0L) but it doesn't like to rev like it's V8 counterpart. Stick with a single 2.25 or 2.50'' exhaust pipe. One user on this site (I forget who) used a 3'' straight pipe on his rig and claims to have no negative drawbacks. See, what you want is scavenging, and if you don't have the correct sized pipe then you will open it up too much and actually hurt your low end torque and horsepower.

me and some guys got into exhaust a here while ago. What we came up with is to have narrow piping coming off of the exhaust manifolds and then gradually open that up to 2.50'' or more as you get closer to the rear bumper. What this does is gives you decent scavenging, but also gives you that added pipe for when you're really hammering down on the skinny pedal and the exhaust gasses are really flowing.

I run a 3'' in dual 2.50'' out and no cats (well, I might have one but I don't know if it's gutted or not). I have NO scavenging affect, lol. You can put your hand next to my tailpipes and it feels week. It isn't pulsating out with force like it should be. But like I said I did all that for sound, not performance.

If you run a single 2.25 or 2.50'' pipe you should be alright. I'll let other guys chime in here that know better. I have a feeling Harte would know better than me what works for performance wise.

You didn't say what kind of power band you're aiming for. Are you looking for off the line power, or highway power? Unfortunately you can't have a lot of both, that's why I'm asking. If you're looking for off the line power, the lower the gear ratio the better.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 09:49 AM
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Now your gettin into my head bill....lol
well, for sake of conversation what if:
I connect 2 1/4" pipe to the exhaust manifolds, run it into a y setup that feeds into a 2.5" pipe on to the rear.....?

Next question, as I am new to the whole inline 6 setup, how will glasspacks/mufflers or a combo of the two sound?

Thanks for the insight though...


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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 09:58 AM
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Wes, I'm about to head out so I'll make this short. Glasspacks sound good on a 300 but I prefer a baffled muffler. Believe me, I've tried both.

Here's a link to my YouTube. Check out my truck's vids. Everybody's tastes are different. You might like a low growl, kind of mellow. I like it loud and mean, even if it means having a little rice in the top end.

YouTube - '94 F150 Drive Away
 
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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glasspacks dont belong on a 300 and i dont know where u get headers dont seal well, i had mine on for 3 yrs with no issues. i recently put on a Moroso spiral muffler (think race bullet) and its loud, but i am not running a cat and its pretty much straight through design on the muffler. its quiet when ur in town or easy on the throttle but once u crack it open, it'll sing.

the best exhaust is a single 2 1/2" with a high flow cat, muffler of ur choice and perferably exiting behind the axle. mine exit in front of the rear tire (to cheap to have an exhaust shop put a tail pipe on) and it drones inside. moving the tailpipe further back reduces the drone dramtically.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by optikal illushun
glasspacks dont belong on a 300 and i dont know where u get headers dont seal well, i had mine on for 3 yrs with no issues. i recently put on a Moroso spiral muffler (think race bullet) and its loud, but i am not running a cat and its pretty much straight through design on the muffler. its quiet when ur in town or easy on the throttle but once u crack it open, it'll sing.

the best exhaust is a single 2 1/2" with a high flow cat, muffler of ur choice and perferably exiting behind the axle. mine exit in front of the rear tire (to cheap to have an exhaust shop put a tail pipe on) and it drones inside. moving the tailpipe further back reduces the drone dramtically.
I get it from what every man here who has complained about having sealing issues with headers.

If your muffler is straight through, and not a glass pack, how is it a muffler at all?

OI is right. Having the tailpipes ran behind the axles reduces interior noise dramatically.

Something strange, but when I had Echo tips, it drained horribly in my cab. Right now my pipes are dumped past my cab (no turn downs, just open). It isn't uncomfortable like it was when I had the echo tips in front of the rear tire.

And I didn't say every truck / header has issues. I was just saying a lot of people complain about leaking headers, and that he can't go wrong with EFI manifolds.

Edit: I don't know where you get that glass packs don't belong on a 300. I do prefer baffled mufflers, but the best ALL AROUND exhaust set up I've heard on a 300 involved a Y pipe and duel glass packs. I had this set up too and it sounded great. It all depends.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 12:38 PM
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the one time my exhaust fell off my truck i thought it sounded good, lol, that was just no muffler and had the cats on. Sounded like a gnarly tractor.

The biggest problem with headers sealing, is typically the gaskets that come with the headers are junk, and if the bolts arent torqued down perfectly, they like to back themselves out.

BTW, i like crown victorias
 
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