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Old May 27, 2009 | 02:32 PM
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Baldwin fuel filters?

Picked up a set of baldwin fuel filters #PF7812 . Got home and opened the box to check them out and noticed the filter that goes on the frame is different than the one I have used in the past, It just has the pleets on it like the filter on top has. Do you guys think it is a good idea to use this or should I take it back for a refund? Thanks
 
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Old May 27, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Take it back. It's missing the aqua-block fabric, and therefore it may pass water. Not good!
 
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Old May 27, 2009 | 05:57 PM
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Take it back.... the OEM filter (made by Racor) has the extra Aqua-block media filter that makes it seperate water in the fuel.

The HFCM is a fuel filter and water seperator unit... and without the proper fuel filter.. it does not work... and if it does work... you run the risk of ruining your injectors and motor.

Buy your fuel filters at the local Int'l truck dealer. They only cost about $35.00/kit and probably are less than what you paid for your "will-fit" fuel filters (am I right)???

Use Racor, Motorcraft or Int'l - ONLY!!!!!

As well, the will-fit is a slightly different size and may/could cause fitment issues.

Photo of clean/normal filter and a heavily clogged/plugged filter:
<a href="http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj23/Beachbumcook/?action=view&current=FuelFiltersCloggedandNormal.j pg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj23/Beachbumcook/FuelFiltersCloggedandNormal.jpg" border="0" alt="Clogged &amp;amp; Normal 6.0L PSD Fuel Filters"></a>


Photo of new 2-filter OEM kit (note white media on large filter):
<a href="http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj23/Beachbumcook/?action=view&current=RacorFuelFilterKit.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj23/Beachbumcook/RacorFuelFilterKit.jpg" border="0" alt="Racor Fuel Filter Kit - 6.0L PSD"></a>


Box-top of Int'l filter showing part number you need:
<a href="http://s268.photobucket.com/albums/jj23/Beachbumcook/?action=view&current=IntlFuelFilter-Box-PartNumberandIma.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj23/Beachbumcook/IntlFuelFilter-Box-PartNumberandIma.jpg" border="0" alt="Int'l Box Top - 6.0L PSD Fuel FIlter"></a>
 
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Old May 27, 2009 | 08:23 PM
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Question fuel filters

I purchased a fuel filter kit for my 2003 psd made by wix has white gauze on larger filter .has anyone used these filters? are they safe? looks like original ones.the winemaker
 
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Old May 27, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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I purchased a fuel filter kit for my 2003 psd made by wix has white gauze on larger filter .has anyone used these filters? are they safe? looks like original ones.the winemaker

Can't say for sure, but I would not use it. I don't know why guys try to reinvent the wheel. Maybe you own Wix stock or something.

The filter design is patented, and cannot be duplicated by anyone but Racor, so I think we must suspect that anything made by other than Racor will be inferior.
 
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Old May 27, 2009 | 08:51 PM
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People need to keep in mind that Racor designed and manufactured the oil and fuel filtration systems for our beloved 6.0. The filter elements are integral components to the filter housing assemblies and require proper dimensions and construction for the filtration systems to function properly. Buy anything other than Racor made fuel or oil filters (Racor, Motorcraft, IH) and you take the risk of compromising your filtration system. As the saying goes, pay a little now or a lot later. It's your choice. But why risk several thousand dollars in repairs to save a few dollars on a cheaper filter (and I mean cheaper in every sense of the word)?
 
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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Bummer to hear that Baldwin went the el cheapo route. The Baldwin/Hastings (same company) fuel filters for the 6.0L used to be repackaged Racors...
 
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Old May 27, 2009 | 09:51 PM
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However, Framm oil filters for the 6.0L are just repackaged Racor oil filters in a Framm box.

Racor makes filters for other people's lables, trouble is, there is not list of who these brands are... so many have just decided to stay with Racor made, Motorcraft or Int'l filters (oil and fuel).

I buy Motorcraft oil filters are Walmart - $19.99

I buy fuel filters from Int'l dealer for $35.00/kit. (Lower price than NAPA, Motorcraft or other sellers/re-sellers).

The days of just using any old "spin-on" oil filter or "will-fit" fuel filters are over... and that applies to owners of the new 6.4L PSD.
 
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Old May 27, 2009 | 10:24 PM
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Thanks for all the help guys, I will be taking the filters back and get the correct one from intl. Thanks again
 
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In the picture shown below (copied from previous post), the numbers "58230-10" and "3642" are shown on the HFCM filter. Do all acceptable filters (Racor, MtrCraft, Ford) have these numbers stamped on them?

The reason I ask is because I recently bought some fuel filter kits that were supposedly Ford oem. They came in a plain white box, and the filters look EXACTLY the same as the ones in the picture above (same color plastic, same bit of glue inconsistently showing on both ends, same water separation fabric, etc), but there are no identifiable numbers stamped on them, as is shown in this picture.

EDIT- I'm referring to BeachBumCook's second picture. For some reason I can't get it to show again.
 
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I don't know. I could look tonight and see if mine have the numbers, or maybe someone else has some handy to check. Those numbers look like lot numbers to me, not patent numbers, but you would think all Racor would have similar if not identical lot numbers.

It sure sounds like you've got the right thing, and if I were in your shoes I think I would go get a correct filter set so I could compare them side by side. Or maybe take yours with you to a Ford counter man and compare.

Edit:
Here is a post with pictures of my last set of filters. These were installed by a Ford dealership. No lot numbers that I can see.
Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums - View Single Post - Look what I found in my HFCM
 
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Old May 28, 2009 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by w_huisman
In the picture shown below (copied from previous post), the numbers "58230-10" and "3642" are shown on the HFCM filter. Do all acceptable filters (Racor, MtrCraft, Ford) have these numbers stamped on them?

The reason I ask is because I recently bought some fuel filter kits that were supposedly Ford oem. They came in a plain white box, and the filters look EXACTLY the same as the ones in the picture above (same color plastic, same bit of glue inconsistently showing on both ends, same water separation fabric, etc), but there are no identifiable numbers stamped on them, as is shown in this picture.

EDIT- I'm referring to BeachBumCook's second picture. For some reason I can't get it to show again.
Hard to say....

NAPA/WIX used to buy OEM oil filters from Racor and repackage them, then they stopped and made/sold "will-fit" oil filters and fuel filters.

Not sure if the fuel filters they are selling are OEM or not and if one gets OEM one month, it may be not be the next. Now.... if the large filter has the extra white media around the pleats, then I believe that it is an OEM/Racor made filter.

I have just lost faith with NAPA/WIX as one never knows as some locations have old stock, some filters are OEM and others are not????

For me... too much drama and hassle.
 
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