9" Axle ID please
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Cargo Master
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From: Wahpeton ND
9" Axle ID please
I got a 9" out of a 70 LTD and was woundering if it is a 9 3/8" ring or a straight 9" ring. Also any idea if it would be a limited slip would be cool.
This is the tag to the best of my abiliy to read it. Kinda amazing that it was still there 40 yrs later.
RJC C1"C" 9GC
2 7.59 9"?" 16A
Stuff in quotes is either illegible or a good guess. I checked the axle decoder but that was a funky mess.
If its an LS dif it would be sweet. A plain 9" is cool to as I want a more streetable gear in my 64F100 4.11 is to damn low for a pickup that will never haul more then 1500lbs.
This is the tag to the best of my abiliy to read it. Kinda amazing that it was still there 40 yrs later.
RJC C1"C" 9GC
2 7.59 9"?" 16A
Stuff in quotes is either illegible or a good guess. I checked the axle decoder but that was a funky mess.
If its an LS dif it would be sweet. A plain 9" is cool to as I want a more streetable gear in my 64F100 4.11 is to damn low for a pickup that will never haul more then 1500lbs.
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I got a 9" out of a 70 LTD and was woundering if it is a 9 3/8" ring or a straight 9" ring. Also any idea if it would be a limited slip would be cool.
This is the tag to the best of my abiliy to read it. Kinda amazing that it was still there 40 yrs later.
RJC C1"C" 9GC
2 7.59 9"?" 16A
Stuff in quotes is either illegible or a good guess. I checked the axle decoder but that was a funky mess.
If its an LS dif it would be sweet. A plain 9" is cool to as I want a more streetable gear in my 64F100 4.11 is to damn low for a pickup that will never haul more then 1500lbs.
This is the tag to the best of my abiliy to read it. Kinda amazing that it was still there 40 yrs later.
RJC C1"C" 9GC
2 7.59 9"?" 16A
Stuff in quotes is either illegible or a good guess. I checked the axle decoder but that was a funky mess.
If its an LS dif it would be sweet. A plain 9" is cool to as I want a more streetable gear in my 64F100 4.11 is to damn low for a pickup that will never haul more then 1500lbs.
No axle tag code begins with the letter R. There is no J code as the second digit of the prefix. The highest second letter is G.
All Ford 6 3/4" / 7 1/4" / 8" / 8.7" / 9" / 9 3/8" axle tags begin with the letter W.
I looked, there is no W J C.
There are over 600 different axle codes for 1965/72 Ford passenger cars. I looked thru pages upon pages looking for possible codes that have W ? C, then suffixes of C, C1.
Couldn't find a match...better take another look-see at that tag...try looking on the reverse side.
2 7.59 should be: 2.79 (2.79-1). While it could be 2L79 if it has Limited Slip, that is not always the case on vehicles of this vintage.
Some 9's have a separate tag with just the letter L on it. L = Limited Slip.
9GC = Assembled the 3rd week (C) of July (G), 1969 (9).
Even if the code was correct, trucks use different axle code suffixes than cars do, so...the FTE decoders will not work.
The carrier (pumpkin) of 9 3/8" rear axles has one of the ends of the upper re-inforcements tailing off towards the drivers side, not straight across like 9's do.
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Cargo Master
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The tag is in realy tuff shape Im sorry it seems illogical. Will the cariiier assembly mount into the one on my 64 F100? That is the main purpose for getting it?
I think I'll have to pull the carier out and count the teeth to be 100% sure of what I got.
I think I'll have to pull the carier out and count the teeth to be 100% sure of what I got.
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I got a 9" out of a 70 LTD and was woundering if it is a 9 3/8" ring or a straight 9" ring. Also any idea if it would be a limited slip would be cool.
This is the tag to the best of my abiliy to read it. Kinda amazing that it was still there 40 yrs later.
RJC C1"C" 9GC
2 7.59 9"?" 16A
Stuff in quotes is either illegible or a good guess. I checked the axle decoder but that was a funky mess.
If its an LS dif it would be sweet. A plain 9" is cool to as I want a more streetable gear in my 64F100 4.11 is to damn low for a pickup that will never haul more then 1500lbs.
This is the tag to the best of my abiliy to read it. Kinda amazing that it was still there 40 yrs later.
RJC C1"C" 9GC
2 7.59 9"?" 16A
Stuff in quotes is either illegible or a good guess. I checked the axle decoder but that was a funky mess.
If its an LS dif it would be sweet. A plain 9" is cool to as I want a more streetable gear in my 64F100 4.11 is to damn low for a pickup that will never haul more then 1500lbs.
flipklos
Here is some info that may help now and in the future, its real useful when dealing with
the ( 9" and the 9 3/8 . )
Link>>>>>>
Kevinstang's Ford Nine Inch Differential Page +
Link.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://www.maliburacing.com/ford_9_i..._nine_inch.htm
Wally Womack
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There are exactly six parts that are the same 9 3/8" vs 9"
Two pinion bearings and one race, the housing gasket, pinion seal, the lock ring for the pilot bearing.
Everything else is different...including the axleshafts, axle bearings and seals. 9 3/8" parts are hard to find.
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flipklos
Heres a link to some good info. on the 9 3/8 rear end there is a real good ( Photo ) that
will help with ( I.D.) , also bill has posted some places that sill has parts !
Link>>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...e-carrier.html
Wally Womack
Heres a link to some good info. on the 9 3/8 rear end there is a real good ( Photo ) that
will help with ( I.D.) , also bill has posted some places that sill has parts !
Link>>>>>>>>>>>
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...e-carrier.html
Wally Womack
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9 3/8" = 1966/73 Passenger Cars:
All Lincoln: Town Car, Mark III & Mark IV / Some Thunderbirds, Galaxie/LTD's & Mercury Marquis.
1968/72 F100. The 9 3/8" was an option over the 9 inch, but was standard equipment on F100 Camper Specials.
1968/72 F100: The 9" had a axle capacity of 3300 lbs. The 9 3/8" had an axle capacity of 3600 lbs.
9 3/8" = 31 splined axleshafts.
All Lincoln: Town Car, Mark III & Mark IV / Some Thunderbirds, Galaxie/LTD's & Mercury Marquis.
1968/72 F100. The 9 3/8" was an option over the 9 inch, but was standard equipment on F100 Camper Specials.
1968/72 F100: The 9" had a axle capacity of 3300 lbs. The 9 3/8" had an axle capacity of 3600 lbs.
9 3/8" = 31 splined axleshafts.
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Post Fiend
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Bill A 9 3/8 fits in a nine inch housing. All that needs to be done is clearance the housing a bit top and bottom to slip the punkin in place.
I have a 9 3/8 2.75 case out of a merc grand marquis wagon in my 64. others here on the forum also have them in their nine inch housings.
Garbz
I have a 9 3/8 2.75 case out of a merc grand marquis wagon in my 64. others here on the forum also have them in their nine inch housings.
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I figured it out using kevinstangs site and some squinting.
I got a non locking 2.75 ratio 9" with 28 splines on the shafts.
Will this bolt up to my original 64 housing? Id like to set up a 3.70 gear with a limited slip in it. Also is the OEM type tracloc differential still available? Or do I have to use a aftermarket?
I got a non locking 2.75 ratio 9" with 28 splines on the shafts.
Will this bolt up to my original 64 housing? Id like to set up a 3.70 gear with a limited slip in it. Also is the OEM type tracloc differential still available? Or do I have to use a aftermarket?
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Giving advice to others inre to mods is not something I do....unless I have done it myself or seen it done at the dealership..so I know that it works.
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Bill, You have got to cut the rest of us some slack, and give us credit for what we do.
When I came here in the 90s we just started swapping I-beams for disc brake upgrades. You would have murdered us, because as you stated, no dealership was doing it, and still don't.
Some cat wrote that miserably flawed article that the site management embraced about what year parts will swap and others that wont, and is still around.
If a part will work, it will work.
John
When I came here in the 90s we just started swapping I-beams for disc brake upgrades. You would have murdered us, because as you stated, no dealership was doing it, and still don't.
Some cat wrote that miserably flawed article that the site management embraced about what year parts will swap and others that wont, and is still around.
If a part will work, it will work.
John
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Bill, You have got to cut the rest of us some slack, and give us credit for what we do.
When I came here in the 90s we just started swapping I-beams for disc brake upgrades. You would have murdered us, because as you stated, no dealership was doing it, and still don't.
Some cat wrote that miserably flawed article that the site management embraced about what year parts will swap and others that wont, and is still around.
If a part will work, it will work. John
When I came here in the 90s we just started swapping I-beams for disc brake upgrades. You would have murdered us, because as you stated, no dealership was doing it, and still don't.
Some cat wrote that miserably flawed article that the site management embraced about what year parts will swap and others that wont, and is still around.
If a part will work, it will work. John
I personally have no experience, or have never seen a 9 3/8" carrier installed into a 9" housing.
Prior to yesterday, I've read exactly one post on this topic. I'm not giving out the info based on that one post.
If you and Dave (Garbz2) say it will work...OK.
I've met Dave, and I know he knows his stuff...he has far more practical experience than I ever had...or will.
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