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Old May 20, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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I also get my Valvoline Premium Blue Extreme 5w40 from NAPA. I just sent off my 2nd sample to blackstone. Previously was running Rotella dino. I'll post up the results.
 
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Old May 20, 2009 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by slowmans
You gotta be kiddin me??? when are you guys gonna stop..............
Rock on, dude!
 
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Old May 20, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by supertruck60
Hey Silly,

Good to hear from you. Good luck with the oil change this weekend.

I am going to repost one of our customer's comments on here recently...for your reference.

Feel free to call or email us anytime if we can be of service!

Dan

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No head studs, Original turbo, stock air filter, 4" turbo back exhaust. I am current on flashes. Egr cooler, EGR valve, intercooler replaced at 88k. Alternator and batteries replaced at 110k. Other than that she is stock and original.

The truck lives in Los Alamos, this is in the Jemez mountains at 7500' It does get cold up here, we have a average of 6 feet of snow, morning lows November AVG 26F, December AVG 19F, Jan AVG 18F. Feb 22F.

In September I had the oil changed, By October I noticed that my remote starter was not catching on the first try every morning, and she was producing gray smoke, the smoke was 80% 18 inches from the exhaust using the ringelmann chart for up to 10 minutes.

If I did not let her warm up the turbo did not spin up until the engine exceeded 2000 RPM.

In early November I added the HSS.
Over the next few months I noticed improvement in start time, smoke output, and the turbo returned to normal operation.

By Feb the smoke was less than 10% on initial start and less than 5% after 30 seconds again using the ringelmann chart.

During this time there was no changes to the engine, no parts replaced except an inner tie rod end.


So, as it got colder, the engine started faster, with less smoke, and the turbo resumed working properly. This is not a “think” “sorta” “kinda” opinion.
This is a proven fact; HSS fixed my cold start issues this winter. I used a ringelmann chart on the smoke; I had a timer on the crank time. There were no other variables changed. I even used the same diesel brand all winter; they switch to #2W on November 1st so that was consistent.

So, in conclusion, it is the opinion of a P.E. , Masters in aerospace eng, and a Dr of chemical engineering, that HSS caused a measurable and significant change in my trucks cold start performance.
I assume that some will attribute the change to the tie rod end though."
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I need to stop looking at oil and injector threads or anything that is remotely connected to any part of the oil system.

This is bad, I don't even think true street workers hit the street as hard as this crew does.
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 12:35 AM
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Actually

Originally Posted by tex25025
I need to stop looking at oil and injector threads or anything that is remotely connected to any part of the oil system.

This is bad, I don't even think true street workers hit the street as hard as this crew does.
rock on, Tex
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 08:42 AM
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It's just time for all of us to just start complaining to FTE or alert them to all these kinds of posts (the ones Supertruck60 makes about Hot Shot Additve).

As an FTE sponsor, I guess he/they feel they can post whatever, but it's getting silly now.... and I wish FTE would just tell Hot Shot Additive Company (Lubrication Specialties, Inc) to just go away!!!!

As well, he has highjacked the thread to hock his stuff and it has nothing to do with any other post in the thread!!!!!
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MoyockPowerstroke
Go with the best off-the-shelf oil 5W-40 Mobil 1 Diesel Truck...you can pick it up at Advance or AutoZone....

That's what I use in my truck. I usually buy four 4 Quart jugs of it. Good stuff!
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Beachbumcook
It's just time for all of us to just start complaining to FTE or alert them to all these kinds of posts (the ones Supertruck60 makes about Hot Shot Additve).

As an FTE sponsor, I guess he/they feel they can post whatever, but it's getting silly now.... and I wish FTE would just tell Hot Shot Additive Company (Lubrication Specialties, Inc) to just go away!!!!

As well, he has highjacked the thread to hock his stuff and it has nothing to do with any other post in the thread!!!!!
Beachbumcook,

I should know better than to engage you on this subject as you are the only one complaining...but I am going to call you out on it...for a couple of reasons.

What you do NOT know is how many people call and thank us for the extra info that I post out here. PM's, phone calls and emails asking for more information and so forth.

Most of the people posting and reading out here have no idea that there is direct correlation between their engine's oil and the failure problem with the injectors. I would think it is a sin to not tell them!

I talked about two things on this thread...one our synthetic oil, Blue Diamond, which is a great product and is the subject of the thread. And second, the Hot Shot's Secret which can be run with ANY oil and it will improve its function in the 6.0.

I did add in a testimonial for sure so that may have been too much info but I did NOT hijack the thread.

Finally I am going to give you a PERSONAL testimonial...

About a month ago I was calling some Ford Dealerships and asking them if they would consider carrying Hot Shot's Secret...I won't say where I was calling...but the assistant service manager asked me about the product and wanted to know what it did. I explained that if someone had FAILING or FAILED injectors and performance issues that this product had been shown by the engine's manufacturer to fix it 86% of the time and improve it 14%. It would eliminate the need to replace the injectors and also free up the turbo to function better etc...

I thought he would be tickled to death to have this information...

Do you know what his EXACT words to me were?

"Why would we use a product like that? It would short change us out of repair work"

Can you believe that?!! I was blown away.

We make a product that will remedy a lot of the performance problems in the 6.0 (which has been a major headache for Ford)...and they are worried about screwing themselves out of repair work.

That should tell you where most people's hearts are on this subject.

SO, yes, I expound about our product. I tell everyone I can because it is obvious that those who SHOULD be telling the consumer about it will not do it.

I hope that this explains my activity out here a little better.

I agree with your sentiments...changing oil often is ALWAYS a good preventative measure with this vehicle. But for those who may already be in trouble or for those who just do not know about the inherent problem with this engine...I will continue to share this info.

Best Regards,
Dan
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by supertruck60
Beachbumcook,

I should know better than to engage you on this subject as you are the only one complaining...but I am going to call you out on it...for a couple of reasons.

What you do NOT know is how many people call and thank us for the extra info that I post out here. PM's, phone calls and emails asking for more information and so forth.

Most of the people posting and reading out here have no idea that there is direct correlation between their engine's oil and the failure problem with the injectors. I would think it is a sin to not tell them!

I talked about two things on this thread...one our synthetic oil, Blue Diamond, which is a great product and is the subject of the thread. And second, the Hot Shot's Secret which can be run with ANY oil and it will improve its function in the 6.0.

I did add in a testimonial for sure so that may have been too much info but I did NOT hijack the thread.

Finally I am going to give you a PERSONAL testimonial...

About a month ago I was calling some Ford Dealerships and asking them if they would consider carrying Hot Shot's Secret...I won't say where I was calling...but the assistant service manager asked me about the product and wanted to know what it did. I explained that if someone had FAILING or FAILED injectors and performance issues that this product had been shown by the engine's manufacturer to fix it 86% of the time and improve it 14%. It would eliminate the need to replace the injectors and also free up the turbo to function better etc...

I thought he would be tickled to death to have this information...

Do you know what his EXACT words to me were?

"Why would we use a product like that? It would short change us out of repair work"

Can you believe that?!! I was blown away.

We make a product that will remedy a lot of the performance problems in the 6.0 (which has been a major headache for Ford)...and they are worried about screwing themselves out of repair work.

That should tell you where most people's hearts are on this subject.

SO, yes, I expound about our product. I tell everyone I can because it is obvious that those who SHOULD be telling the consumer about it will not do it.

I hope that this explains my activity out here a little better.

I agree with your sentiments...changing oil often is ALWAYS a good preventative measure with this vehicle. But for those who may already be in trouble or for those who just do not know about the inherent problem with this engine...I will continue to share this info.

Best Regards,
Dan
And if I posted all the comments from this site about how your product doesn't work... does it make my position valid over yours???

I tried Hotshot Additive and found that it did not harm anything, but it didn't help either. I (and others) are just sick and tired of the constant selling/hawking of your products on this site. If someone wants to have a thread on Hotshot or injectors.. then fine (sort of)... but this was an oil thread about synthetic oil.

You must be a young kid working for Lubrication Specialties getting paid a commission on what you sell and you do not see the "loss of respect or interest" you are causing by your posts (you reply and mock several posters above) with funny replies and cartoons!!! Your posts are hurting Hot Shot sales... not helping. I suppose you will now bring up the old issue of your great tranny additive from an old thread... what a joke you made that thread out to be!!!!

You and your company would be better served if you just laid low and spent less time on FTE and more on getting Ford or Int'l to use or certify your product for all diesel motors.
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 11:34 AM
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And moving on...

So my next question..... I will use the 5-40 but when cold weather gets here can I just keep using the 5-40? It usually just gets in the teens.

Thanks!
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by silly34
And moving on...

So my next question..... I will use the 5-40 but when cold weather gets here can I just keep using the 5-40? It usually just gets in the teens.

Thanks!
No problem... that's makes 5W-40 so great.... is that it really shines in cold weather.

The "5W" means it acts and protects like a 5 weight oil for easier starts (warm and cold) and the '40" means it protects like a 40 weight oil when the motor is at temp.

I use it year-round and love it.

Easier starts was my main goal for using, but Rotella-Syn 5W-40 is readily available and costs the least amount of any national synthetic oil brand are the reasons I chose it.

Just use any brand of API CJ4 certified 5W-40 oil you want... there are really no bad oils any more... just some that are priced more than others.

Since synthetic oils are so highly purified, they run cleaner and leave less residue... part of the other reason I chose to switch. As well, synthetic oils tolerate high heat (turbo bearings) better... hense another reason I use year-round.

Good luck,
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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I ran Rotella dino but have switched to Rotella synthetic for last couple of changes. Get mine a Wally World.
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 12:25 PM
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I ran Rotella dino but have switched to Rotella synthetic for last couple of changes. Get mine at Wally World.
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by supertruck60

I talked about two things on this thread...one our synthetic oil, Blue Diamond, which is a great product and is the subject of the thread. And second, the Hot Shot's Secret which can be run with ANY oil and it will improve its function in the 6.0.

You know, you keep on saying that it works wonders on the 6.0 and yet you or the company that you represent on these boards have not sent anything that was tested on the 6.0. That oil analysis that is on your brochure that you were emailing for those interested in the other thread was tested on a 7.3, I couldn't tell rather it was IDI or DI, so that could be another issue with it. Which I didn't see your response in that thread as I had posted mine about that information before you did your response on trying to get the info uploaded.

Second, you may have a wonderful product, I have yet to see any clear cut proof of that and the wishy washy testimonials from people only go so far, even the better testimonial that you have has one issue with it that hasn't been resolved yet(or could be an issue with it, I have to determine that based on the answer that I get). However, the means at which you go about hocking those products are pissing more people off and that reflects badly on the company. Those "rock on" comments aren't really good as a representative for the company as well, if we "say" it there is a little more latitude, you say it it's unprofessional. Double standard, but you have to deal with it.

I have yet to see anything related to testing on the 6.0 on any of your products and yet you keep on hocking it in the 6.0 forums. You need to change your strategy here, I get more PMs from people that are tired of you doing this then anything else, I guess they send it to me because they know of my stance on these products based on what I've seen so far.

I really am trying to keep an open mind here, but the way your conducting yourself here, the way your constantly hocking your products(I can think of one user that spends more time helping people then actually plugging his product, I think he plugged it 3 times that I'm aware of, I'm aware of far more times from you then that and I'm not trying to spot these from any of y'all, I don't have to try with you) and the lack of testing on the 6.0 that I've seen are all question marks when stacked up with the huge claims that y'all are making.

I have to see more come out from y'alls end, otherwise, rather it's from me or not, you're going to have to deal with this most everytime you post on here. I don't want any: "well we will send stuff off and let you know later" excuse either. If these products can do without a doubt what all y'all claim that they can do, then I would have that evidence ready to send out to show people, not to make them pull teeth to get it out of y'all. I'm not asking for big secrets(if any) to be revealed, just good, consistent, quality testing on the 6.0 engine.

If it truly is as good as you say it is and you are able to sway myself and others that have my position on this then that will be a helluva lot better for you and cut your work down, then going about it the way that you are.
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Beachbumcook
And if I posted all the comments from this site about how your product doesn't work... does it make my position valid over yours???

I tried Hotshot Additive and found that it did not harm anything, but it didn't help either. I (and others) are just sick and tired of the constant selling/hawking of your products on this site. If someone wants to have a thread on Hotshot or injectors.. then fine (sort of)... but this was an oil thread about synthetic oil.

You must be a young kid working for Lubrication Specialties getting paid a commission on what you sell and you do not see the "loss of respect or interest" you are causing by your posts (you reply and mock several posters above) with funny replies and cartoons!!! Your posts are hurting Hot Shot sales... not helping. I suppose you will now bring up the old issue of your great tranny additive from an old thread... what a joke you made that thread out to be!!!!

You and your company would be better served if you just laid low and spent less time on FTE and more on getting Ford or Int'l to use or certify your product for all diesel motors.
Beachbum,

You are the only person on this thread complaining, so it looks like you are the hijacker.

And for the record "rock on" is hardly mocking anyone...even though the previous poster was mocking my comments. Why don't you look it up in your Funk and Wagnalls.

I apologize, Silly, for this bickering I should have been wiser than to take this person's bait.

Good luck with the oil change.

Dan
 
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Old May 21, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by supertruck60
And for the record "rock on" is hardly mocking anyone...even though the previous poster was mocking my comments. Why don't you look it up in your Funk and Wagnalls.

Meanings of words change. When I was growing up, Rock on, Let's Rock it(title of a rock song, you may or may not be old enough to know it) meant totally different things then they do now and even then they had double meanings not knowing the frame of mind you were in when you typed them, I have no idea which meaning you were using. One of the hazards of using the computer.
 
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