Have been working on building a 51 F1 off and on for a few years. Hopefully this will be an on year and we will make some progress.
A body off build, most of the sheet metal work is complete a little more to go, but floor installation has to wait until motor is installed so modifications can be made
IFS suspension already welded in,
460 motor and c-6 rebuilt and ready to go.
need suggestions for motor mount style and suppliers

recently acquired a dying 93 explorer, plan to use rear setup and any other servicable parts before sending it off to crusher

would appreciate any suggestions, input, etc.

Have already copied relevant info from FAQ and articles posted on this site.

Thanx

 

My experience with F-1's, IFS swaps, and cars in general has taught me that the best way to go about it is to mock up the engine, transmission, and cab and then custom design your mounts to fit. This would be especially true with a big 460. The F-1 chassis is relatively narrow and the engine bay is a little tight lengthwise, too. Up,down, left, right, front, rear.... there will always be a "sweet spot" for the powertrain to sit in and unless the engine was a factory option, that sweet spot will be different for every truck. The IFS design, headers, transmission choice, and a dozen other factors will influence its position. No aftermarket mounts will put it exactly where you want it - even if they were supplied by the IFS kit manufacturer.

Start by using blocks, cribbing, shims, slings, or whatever else to get it securely supported in there where you want it. Then, go look through a motor mount paper catalog at a parts store for various 460 stock mount applications. There will be a couple different designs for trucks, cars, etc. Look at the pictures and pick a set of pads that it looks like you car easily attach to the frame. Once they are on the engine, it's just a matter of bridging the gap. You can look at aftermarket mounts and other people's builds to get some idea of what works and how to go about it. It will require some fab and welding, but if you've already installed an IFS, that shouldn't be an issue.

Here's a pic of what I came up with on my '51 F-1 for a 351W, AOD, and Cordoba IFS. The shot is a little odd because the frame is disassembled for blasting. My design got a little more complicated than what is really necessary, but it looks and works good! You can usually get away with bar stock and pipe.

 

thanks for you input. anyone else have any comments or suggestions..
Also looking for suggestions for donated steering columns.
Want to use as many FORD items as humanly possible

 

I’m also just (still) at the planning stage and have been also looking at 460/f1 frame engine mounts. You can usually fabricate something as I have done on previous cars but I must be getting lazier (and older) because I’m looking at buying something. I originally intended to use a tubular frame cross member engine mount to also give extra frame rigidity but it I believe that with the MII there is not enough room. In some of various pictures of 460 install it looks like the engine could sit high enough for the brackets to be install on the top of the frame rather then inside depending on which motor mounts used. I once installed a BB in a ’37 coupe with U shaped bracket of the top and bottom of the frame and the engine looked OK but it sat too low resulting on much pavement rash on the oil pan.
Anyways they cost like heck but I sure like the looks (with a little gusseting) of tinmans mounts (please keep me posted on your project).
The picture is upside down to installation.

 

Hi there!

There have been a number of threads about re engining and 460, but as you have probably discovered, our search function is garbage so any historical info is almost impossible to find. Here are some links about re engining that might shed some light:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...y-do-i-go.html

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...-for-51-a.html

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...ng-enough.html

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/8...-6-mounts.html

There are a couple guys doing 460 in the F1 but I can't for the life of me remember who they are, but they will come along I'm sure.

In the mean time the links I posted has some good info and to become familiar with guys who are doing the 460 thing.

 

Any help to be found in swapping out a 239 from a 1954 Ford F100 to a 292 or 302 for the easiest transition without many modifications? Any engine swap help manuals out there?

 

You are kidding, ……….aren’t you?

Not as such, just information you can accumulate from this site and others including aftermarket products.

The 302 is smaller then the Y block and has more much more after market parts available plus is a newer design so would “IM not SHO” make a better transplant.

Rather then tag on to a not really related thread you would get more responses by starting a new thread, I think, oh and welcome.

 

Thanks for the reply.

Just signed up to find information. I don't even know how to post a question/start a new thread! So, I was coasting on your tail winds!

Pretty sad.

But, the 239 is shot - leaky first 6month motor. Hoping to find advice on locating a motor, 292 or a 302 for easiest modification? and hoping for help/advice.

Thanks.
I'll figure out how to start a new thread.

 

HI 54!

I've got to Echo what Old said. This sight IS the corporate knowledge when it comes to these mods.

If yo can't use the search and find th eanswers (like no one else can either) many of us have saved the links to the previous discussions (like I posted above) and are more than willing to help.

If you want to start a new thread (like introdcing yourself to everyone) just go to the home page for this (48-60) forum and there is a box on the far left about 8 inches down from the top that says "New Thread"

The 460 conversion conversation always gets plenty of attention.

Welcome to FTE by the way!