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Old May 7, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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master rebuild kits proce diffrencdes

I have an offer of a free 81 f150 with the I6 enginge. It is currently running on 3 cylinders and is in need of a rebuild.

I was thinking of purchasing a master kit and it seems they come in a wide range of prices. Anywhere from $350 on the internet to over $700 from in town parts stores. Is there a big difference in these kits or they all pretty much the same? Also has anyone order from RPMmachine.com or perfectengine.com?

What kind of head work do you guys recommend in a rebuild?

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Old May 7, 2009 | 02:21 PM
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The price and quality of kits always come in lots of options. You will want to see what quality the parts are ie. cast or forged pistons, i type or h type connecting rods, ect. It really depends on what you plan on doing with the engine (stock, forced industion, hp cam, ect) As far as the head goes I would disasemble it and take it to the machine shop to have them check the deck and valve seats. If your valves and springs are ok just give them a good cleaning and reinstall.
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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I bet the 700 buck ones include pistons. The cheap kits generally are just headgaskets, rigns, and main bearings.
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 02:33 PM
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The cheap kit at RPM and perfectengine does include pistons.

This is a list of the items in the kit brand names are thrown around but as to what comes in the I6 300 kit I think I would have to call to find out.

Master kits: include Pistons, Rings, Gaskets, Cam Bearings, Rod Bearings, Main Bearings, Oil Pump, Freeze Plugs, Camshaft, Lifters,Timing Set And Wrist pin Bushings where applicable.
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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Oh and what I plan on doing with it is drive it every couple of weeks to pick up crap and haul off crap. so maybe 1500 miles a year.
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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Yea I forgot to mention you need to check if it is a rebuild kit or and overhaul kit. There is a big difference. A rebuild kit if done properly can give you 150k-300k more miles out of a motor and an overhaul kit will just put a bandaid on the problem until you can rebuild it.
 
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Stop. Do not buy anything till the engine is torn down and you make an assessment of the engine and the problems it has. You need to pick a machine shop that will work with you, and then tear it down and take the bare crank, block and the head to them and get them checked. They will tell you what has to be done and what size parts you need, and you may find it's not fixable depending on what's wrong with it. It's going to take a little bit of time, but you will not be wasting money on parts you don't need or that won't fit.
 
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
Stop. Do not buy anything till the engine is torn down and you make an assessment of the engine and the problems it has. You need to pick a machine shop that will work with you, and then tear it down and take the bare crank, block and the head to them and get them checked. They will tell you what has to be done and what size parts you need, and you may find it's not fixable depending on what's wrong with it. It's going to take a little bit of time, but you will not be wasting money on parts you don't need or that won't fit.
I just rebuilt my 400 last summer and learned a lot. Listen to Franklin2, he speaks the
truth.

I had two hobbyists and three professionals look at my disassembled engine before I
settled on one professional builder. Evaluating the condition of parts & components
involves specialized measuring devices combined with knowledge & experience. Let the
people who do this for a living do what they're good at (if you want an end result you
can have some confidence in).

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Old May 8, 2009 | 11:21 AM
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Thanks for the advice. I've chatted with a guy over at the carquest machine shop. I think the shop work is going to be about $150. This is for a hone and bore, acid wash/inspection and bearing pressing + freeze plugs. I guess I'll wait and see what he says.

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