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Old May 6, 2009 | 09:03 PM
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Starter falls off...watch out

Okay, well not really, but the starter mounting bolts loosening seems to be an issue especially if you have the DB high torque (not so great) starter. I'm pretty sure everyone knows of my issues with the starter and that is for another time. Anyway, my starter made a funny noise, so I looked under the truck and the starter was hanging by the wires. Somehow the bolts backed out. I torqued them properly to being with. I replaced the starter bolt again, torqued it down, and same thing happened, only this time the threads got damaged because the bolt must have loosened and when I started the truck, the threads were 'screwed'. Went to get a helicoil kit, to the tune of $75 plus the drill bit, and another $45 for a 90* right angle drill attachment as there is no room for a drill under there, and went to work. Long story short, the helicoil worked great, and so far the starter hasn't fallen out again, although it hasnt' been in long at all.

Condensed version: Check your starter bolts, especially if you have the DB high torque starter. If they come loose, you may damage the threads in the adapter and have to retap and helicoil the holes...
 
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Old May 6, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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Good to know. I'll check this tomorrow.
 
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Old May 6, 2009 | 09:11 PM
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Thanks for the heads up camodown.

Why not use some blue thread locker? If that doesn't work go red.

To bad DB doesn't have a 3 bolt high torque starter.
 
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Old May 6, 2009 | 09:14 PM
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Sorry to hear about your delema, also glad you had a fix. Alot of guys on here went with the DB and this is a good thread for them. Reps to yaa..
 
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Old May 6, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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Good post!!

I have lost a started before too and its no fun!

Mine actually got blown off by 2 of my wrist pins coming out the pan
completely blew the starter off!

 
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Old May 6, 2009 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperDoodie
Good post!!

I have lost a started before too and its no fun!

Mine actually got blown off by 2 of my wrist pins coming out the pan
completely blew the starter off!

OUCH!! That's gonna leave a mark.
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 03:54 AM
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LOL

I'm sorry but that's just funny. It sucks but it's funny. Starter blown completely off by pins flying out.

Anyhow, thanks for the heads up, I'll check mine next time I'm under the truck which should be soon since I have to fix my up pipe leak.
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 07:57 AM
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That's something I do reguarly now, check the starter bolts torque! Mines come loss a hand full times.
 
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I wonder is star washers would help out in this situation? I worked on a machine that had pnuematic vibrators on it to help move the product down the line and they were the only thing that worked so the bolts wouldn't loosten up.
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 10:05 AM
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I would try to use red loctite. It works really well in other applications, I don't see why it wouldn't in this one.
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 10:08 AM
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Great tip. Thanks.

I was thinking "red loctite" as well, Jason.

I'll have to check mine this evening.
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Visseroth
LOL

I'm sorry but that's just funny. It sucks but it's funny. Starter blown completely off by pins flying out.

Anyhow, thanks for the heads up, I'll check mine next time I'm under the truck which should be soon since I have to fix my up pipe leak.
Its funny now but at the time it wasn't.. I was going over Lookout pass pulling the 5th wheel
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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I used to have a 4x4 Ranger that had this problem. I constantly had to monitor the starter bolts or they would back loose and the starter would hang. That truck also had an issue where the ignition rotor would come loose under the distributor cap, causing the cap to shatter.
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperDoodie
Its funny now but at the time it wasn't.. I was going over Lookout pass pulling the 5th wheel
So what caused it to happen?
 
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Old May 8, 2009 | 02:11 AM
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the BD starter is not a bad starter..it has to do with the installer...lock tite should always be used on any starter..the high TQ starter needs it the most..when you hit the key that sucker is dong some work and it will loosen the bolts if you dont use lock tite...... much like the u-joint straps on the drive shaft..they should always have lock tite on them as well with all the TQ the drive shaft will see..
 
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