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Old May 6, 2009 | 03:41 PM
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Throtle stop solenoid

Where can I buy one? Engages fast idle for AC compressor etc.
 
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Old May 6, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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The throttle solenoid does not serve for fast idle or AC. The only purpose of the throttle solenoid is to prevent dieseling. On carburetors equipped with this solenoid, the solenoid holds curb idle while the motor is running. When you cut power, the solenoid retracts, and the throttle plates shut completely. This cuts off any path of air and fuel to enter the engine, to eliminate dieseling. The throttle solenoid power is sourced from hot-in-run power.

Fast idle is controlled by a mechanical fast idle linkage. If your engine will not idle with AC engaged, you have a vacuum leak, improper idle fuel mixture, or too low of a curb idle speed.
 
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Old May 7, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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I found one online at Auto Parts Giant, but that's been 4 or 5 years ago. Have no idea if they still have them. When I was looking, they were hard to find.
 
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Old May 8, 2009 | 01:33 AM
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Without the carburetor tag number, looking up the correct parts is impossible.

There are two possible solenoids:

9S520: Solenoid and Dashpot Assy: 1977, there are THREE different ones.

9D856: Emission Control Solenoid: 1977, there are SIX different ones.

The carb differences: CA, non CA / Before/after serial numbers / High-Altitude, non High Altitude. In NM, you may have a High-Altitude carb.

IF the DSO code on your Warranty Plate is either 71 or 72, you have a sold new in CA vehicle.
 
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Old May 11, 2009 | 03:29 PM
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Regardless of intended use I use mine for an idle bump when the AC compressor is on and on a switch for winter fast idle help (cold natured). I don't really care what the original ap was. There were some that had two positions which might be nice.
 
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Throttle Emission Control Solenoid, depending on the carb ID number:

D7DZ9D856A (Motorcraft CS4) / Obsolete

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has THREE: 800-543-4959.

LINCOLN OLD PARTS STORE in Clearwater FL has ONE: 727-445-1091.

Or...

D7TZ9D856A (Motorcraft CS24) / Obsolete

KLIMESH AUTO SALES (Ford Dealer) in Calmar IA has ONE: 563-562-3241.

No other Ford Dealer or obsolete parts vendor has either one.

Application: 1977/78 F100/350 351M/400 C6 without CA emission.
 
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Old May 12, 2009 | 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by fmc400
The throttle solenoid does not serve for fast idle or AC. The only purpose of the throttle solenoid is to prevent dieseling. On carburetors equipped with this solenoid, the solenoid holds curb idle while the motor is running. When you cut power, the solenoid retracts, and the throttle plates shut completely. This cuts off any path of air and fuel to enter the engine, to eliminate dieseling. The throttle solenoid power is sourced from hot-in-run power.

Fast idle is controlled by a mechanical fast idle linkage. If your engine will not idle with AC engaged, you have a vacuum leak, improper idle fuel mixture, or too low of a curb idle speed.
Some carburetor calibrations were equipped with a, Carb Throttle Emission Control solenoid, for the purpose of increasing the idle when the a/c compressor clutch is engaged. It's hooked into the blue wire between the a/c Evaporator thermostat, and the a/c clutch solenoid. It only operates when the A/C is on.
 
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Old May 12, 2009 | 03:12 AM
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Do you know what year this started? I was under the impression that this wasn't until later in the application. I thought it was outside of the 73-79 generation but I could be wrong.
 
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Old May 12, 2009 | 03:27 AM
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Can't be 100%, but from my information my closest guess would be. 1977.

This is the first year when it appears in the wiring diagrams, for this specificly designed purpose. I also notice it matches the year in the part number also.

And just for clarification, not all models had one. This is also apparent in the wiring diagram.
 
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Old May 12, 2009 | 04:24 AM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Throttle Emission Control Solenoid, depending on the carb ID number:

D7DZ9D856A (Motorcraft CS4)

Or...

D7TZ9D856A (Motorcraft CS24)

Application: 1977/78 F100/350 351M/400 C6 without CA emission.
CA vehicles use a different solenoid.

Info source:

1973/79 Ford LIGHT Truck Parts Catalog / Carburetor Section 95 / Parts List #37N.

btw: This parts catalog is available on a CD from hipoparts.com for around 25 bucks.
 
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Cool, thanks for the information.
 
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Thanks for the part numbers!
 
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