Hope someone can be of some help with my new problem. Last week my 2003 F250 6.0 was blowing black smoke, no power and hard to start. Sooo I took it to the ford dealership. The dealership I choose has the only master mech in the area and is aslo a diesel mech. The following is his report:

inspect and diag steps 1-15. Retrive DTC for MAF, Turbo, and EGR system. Replaced EGR, Turbo, MAF and retested. Started truck and ran. Reset KAM and truck will not start. Found PCM defective and replaced. PCM would not program. Found fuse blown and pinpoint test found 2 wires broke at PCM and 2 on MAF.

Well...after all of that...some of which was unnessarry and expensive, i am tapped out money wise. The truck ran great on the 40 mi trip home and i parked it for the night. the next morning it cranked up great and i headed into town, 3 miles, to the hardware store. Came out of the hardware store after about 30mins and crancked the truck. It was idling very rough and when i started down the road it did not have any power. I got it home ok and have run it a couple times to the same fate...rough idle, no power.

I called the mech and he suggested I trade it off because if I bring it back in he feels that the injectors and or the ficm is bad and could end up costing 5-10,000 to to the repairs. He also said he would recommend new wiring harnises

I pulled the codes and the only one is 1780( transmisson overdrive selector out of range).

Not sure if I trust this guy anymore and I dont have that kind of money to spend. I was just wondering if the PCM or the FICM may have lost its programimg or if a wire shorted out some place. Any suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated.

 

How far is “too far” to travel when it comes to getting your Powerstroke repaired properly ?
Go to powerstrokehelp.com
Spend some time listen to Bill´s lectures in his video series on Power Stroke.
You are in Texas , he´s in Georgia -- not too far ?
Replaced EGR, Turbo, MAF, PCM, and now suggesting to replace the truck !! Come´n.!!
By the way, how many k. has the truck ? Any mods?
Hope you find a good mech.
bs.

 

Sounds like you have an electrical problem for sure, but I would demand they fix the truck without throwing any more parts at it. They pulled that crap on me back in 1990, I had a 1988 Ranger and the motor would cut out for a split second a few times a day. The truck was in the shop 3 different times for days at a time threw every module, sensor, controller the truck had into it and finally it turned out to be a chaffed wire. Ford warranty paid for it all about $1,500 back then.

 

The truck has 133k. The turbo did have a cracked housing and was stuck in the open possition. Chasing a wire problem is like trying to catch a ghost.

Georgia is not that far but i dont think my truck would make it that far.

 

So now your techn. feels that the injectors and or the ficm is bad. He might also feel he HPOP is bad or IPR (induction pressure regulator) or the ICP (indution control pressure sensor) or quite many other components are bad. Hopefully he picks the correct items sooner than later. Sry my feeling is bad, but your should read all you can in the tech folder in the " 2003 - 2007 6.0L Power Stroke Diesel" forum. It might give you a clue.

 

I am begining to think that the PCM and FICM needs to be re flashed. It is strange that the PCM is not showing any trouble codes. I would think with the truck running so bad that some kid of code would show up.

 

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Been working on this problem all day and I did the vgt relearn/KAM thing. I was suprised with the results. Now the truck idles rought and has sluggish take off but runs great once you get her moving as long as you keep the RPMs above 1500. Still dont have any codes and that kinda bothers me.

Maybe I will try some of that Hot Shot stuff.

 

eddie has the ICP pig tail been replaced do you know?

 

Sorry man...I can't offer any advice but it sounds like that mechanic just throws parts in instead of finding a root cause.

 

Not sure if that pigtail as been replaced. Is that an area of concern and how would i do it?

 

That pig tail can cause all sorts or running issues by screwing with the signals sent to the FICM. The easiest way to tell is grab a flash light and have a look. The icp is under your turbo and covered with silver cloth heat wrap. The wrap can easily be pulled back to expose the wires, if you do not have 3 purple wires going in it needs to be replaced as there is a known issue with the crimping at the plug. You can see them from on top of the motor with a flash light once you get your arm out of there. Hope this is your issue, please post back if it is.

 

I can see what looks to be foil tape and white cloth on the end of the tape. Is that it? Does it just unplug ...Motor is to hot right now to stick my hand in there.

 

You won't need to unplug it to see the wires just pull the cloth wrap back up the harness. The foil tape is wrapped around heat cloth, the connector you want has three wires.

 

According to the print out I have, Ford replaced the icp on 12-21-05 on recall 03B05.
Do I still need to check the wires?