What do the tuners tune?
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What do the tuners tune?
I am interested in getting the DP tuner.
My questions:
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Notes: I did buy a 6.0 tranny cooler so that should help.
My questions:
- What do these tuners do to the engine to make more power?
- Does it hurt the engine?
- Does it shorten the engines life?
- I need to buy gauges from where?
- What levels do I need to keep the under to make sure no damage is done to the engine?
- Anything else I should consider?
fficeffice" /><o></o>Notes: I did buy a 6.0 tranny cooler so that should help.
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A tuner should not hurt the engine or shorten its life, but it all depends on how hard you are (and whether or not you have gauges to monitor things). For gauges, I know Clay at Riffraff Diesel has some good deals going- I have and recommend Isspro's, the Performax is the way to go if you can swing the extra cost.
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the key to protecting the engine with a tuner is to monitor your gauges. EGT under 1250F is the most important... also with stock engine, esp with PMR's 120-140 HP is the max you want to go....
PCM tuning can change all the engine parameters as well as transmission shift and Torque Converter characteristics.. Such things as injection timing, Mass Fuel Desired, Injector Control Pressure.. wastegate and exhaust backpressure, Injector pulse width... If you want more ideas about what actually can be changed, check out the PHP Minotaur forum Minotaur Automotive Tuning Software™ - Power Hungry Performance Forums
I believe SCT and Delta Force have discussion forums for their products too.. Though I can only comment on Minotaur as thats what I use... I haven't counted but there is probably a few hundred parameters that can be modified... though most tuning only needs to use a small percentage of those...
Any good tune should not have a significant effect on engine life...
I suggest you look at PHP Phoenix as an option to DP tuner... I love mine..
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DP tuner is a good product its my personal opinion that PHP is a better product for less $$... you will be happy with any of the tuners you go with, SCT, Tony Wildman, Heard good stuff about Swamps too.
PCM tuning can change all the engine parameters as well as transmission shift and Torque Converter characteristics.. Such things as injection timing, Mass Fuel Desired, Injector Control Pressure.. wastegate and exhaust backpressure, Injector pulse width... If you want more ideas about what actually can be changed, check out the PHP Minotaur forum Minotaur Automotive Tuning Software™ - Power Hungry Performance Forums
I believe SCT and Delta Force have discussion forums for their products too.. Though I can only comment on Minotaur as thats what I use... I haven't counted but there is probably a few hundred parameters that can be modified... though most tuning only needs to use a small percentage of those...
Any good tune should not have a significant effect on engine life...
I suggest you look at PHP Phoenix as an option to DP tuner... I love mine..
Power Hungry Performance - Feed your hunger for POWER! Check out our Gryphon Programmer for Ford vehicles!
DP tuner is a good product its my personal opinion that PHP is a better product for less $$... you will be happy with any of the tuners you go with, SCT, Tony Wildman, Heard good stuff about Swamps too.
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Is there a benefit to using a tuner in an F-250 with a manual transmission? I see a lot of discussion on using tuners to change shift points, etc., but am not sure how much a tuner would do for a truck with a manual tranny.
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Yes there is a difference...they are a lot easier to tune for due to not having to mess with transmission settings... you still get all the performance benefits of the engine tuning side. In fact many national brand tuners and programmers don't even change any of the transmission setting... reason why Banks for example sells its trans command unit separately... also why Edge got a reputation for killing trannys in the past
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as I stated in my previous post it does lots of things including "Such things as injection timing, Mass Fuel Desired, Injector Control Pressure.. wastegate and exhaust backpressure, Injector pulse width." etc. If you are not a seasoned tech or familiar with how engines produce power then you probably won't understand the previous sentence and will just have to take my word for it.... 
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