Local B5 Experience
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Local B5 Experience
Just had a local Meijer (Similar to Wal-Mart) store and gas station open up this week. They carry E-85 and B5 + what they call Premium Diesel. They sent out coupons in the paper for $5 off an 8 gallon purchase of B5. I'm excited about the B5 knowing it's better for my truck. I filled up and asked the cashier if they had been selling alot of B5 and he said no! People pull up to the pump and are confused. They come in and ask what it is then end up pulling around to the premium diesel. It's priced the same, hopefully people will see the light. How concerned should I be about the turn-over rate of the B5 in the tanks.
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Just had a local Meijer (Similar to Wal-Mart) store and gas station open up this week. They carry E-85 and B5 + what they call Premium Diesel. They sent out coupons in the paper for $5 off an 8 gallon purchase of B5. I'm excited about the B5 knowing it's better for my truck. I filled up and asked the cashier if they had been selling alot of B5 and he said no! People pull up to the pump and are confused. They come in and ask what it is then end up pulling around to the premium diesel. It's priced the same, hopefully people will see the light. How concerned should I be about the turn-over rate of the B5 in the tanks.
As far as turn over, I would be concerned... low turnover is not good.
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You might have some better luck over there.
I would be weary until they start selling more of it though. I'm sure running an additive with it would help if you want to continue using it.
You might have some better luck over there.
I would be weary until they start selling more of it though. I'm sure running an additive with it would help if you want to continue using it.
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I run powerservice in every tank currently. I was hoping to eliminate it by using the B5. Currently the gas station is only open and not the store. The store opens on May 10, which should increase gas station traffic. Hopefully the B5 catches on but how will I ever know for sure?
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I run powerservice in every tank currently. I was hoping to eliminate it by using the B5. Currently the gas station is only open and not the store. The store opens on May 10, which should increase gas station traffic. Hopefully the B5 catches on but how will I ever know for sure?
I would say you would probably be safe using it for a month or so without additive. I would use it after that though if your going to continue using the fuel.
Like beachbum said though, our fuel system is so picky its not really worth it if you break something. They don't sell it where we live yet though.
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So, what are the effects of fuel (dino or bio) sitting for too long and not turning over? I know bio separates after about 6 months and it is more susceptible to taking on water. What other ill effects would come with sitting around? Breaking down chemically?
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As previously posted, bio suffers from water moisture, separation, gells up quicker in the winter and lack of a unified government standard for refiners making bio-diesel (ATSM standard).
At a B5 concentration it really isn't a big issue and Ford states that this is the max one should use due to the unknown effects on the injectors, pumps and such... and even the fuel lines (bio-fuel is a powerful cleaner).
When one uses bio-diesel, you will need to change your fuel filters more often... which would increase your service costs. The greater the bio-diesel level (B20, B100).... the bio-fuel cleans and loosens stuff up in your system and will plug your filters more often... and if the bio-fuel has less turnover at the pump... it is just older fuel (fresh is better when running diesel fuel).
At a B5 concentration it really isn't a big issue and Ford states that this is the max one should use due to the unknown effects on the injectors, pumps and such... and even the fuel lines (bio-fuel is a powerful cleaner).
When one uses bio-diesel, you will need to change your fuel filters more often... which would increase your service costs. The greater the bio-diesel level (B20, B100).... the bio-fuel cleans and loosens stuff up in your system and will plug your filters more often... and if the bio-fuel has less turnover at the pump... it is just older fuel (fresh is better when running diesel fuel).
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As previously posted, bio suffers from water moisture, separation, gells up quicker in the winter and lack of a unified government standard for refiners making bio-diesel (ATSM standard).
At a B5 concentration it really isn't a big issue and Ford states that this is the max one should use due to the unknown effects on the injectors, pumps and such... and even the fuel lines (bio-fuel is a powerful cleaner).
When one uses bio-diesel, you will need to change your fuel filters more often... which would increase your service costs. The greater the bio-diesel level (B20, B100).... the bio-fuel cleans and loosens stuff up in your system and will plug your filters more often... and if the bio-fuel has less turnover at the pump... it is just older fuel (fresh is better when running diesel fuel).
At a B5 concentration it really isn't a big issue and Ford states that this is the max one should use due to the unknown effects on the injectors, pumps and such... and even the fuel lines (bio-fuel is a powerful cleaner).
When one uses bio-diesel, you will need to change your fuel filters more often... which would increase your service costs. The greater the bio-diesel level (B20, B100).... the bio-fuel cleans and loosens stuff up in your system and will plug your filters more often... and if the bio-fuel has less turnover at the pump... it is just older fuel (fresh is better when running diesel fuel).
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When one uses bio-diesel, you will need to change your fuel filters more often... which would increase your service costs. The greater the bio-diesel level (B20, B100).... the bio-fuel cleans and loosens stuff up in your system and will plug your filters more often... and if the bio-fuel has less turnover at the pump... it is just older fuel (fresh is better when running diesel fuel).
That is really only in the initial stages of switching to bio.
Originally Posted by Beachbumcook
If the price is not any lower, then why use B5???
Originally Posted by Beachbumcook
lack of a unified government standard for refiners making bio-diesel (ATSM standard).
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Here in PA I read somewhere the Governor is mandating all diesel fuel be B-2 by 2010 I think. Where I get my B-10 locally there was something with the township I guess for the school buses, now the sticker on the one pump reads B-5 to B-20. It's the same price as dino, and I've been running B-10 for almost 2 years now. I really like it and don't like to fuel anywhere but there.
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Oh, and go Penguins!!
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