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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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Missing bad..Help

I have a 1996 f150 5.0 5spd, heres the problem. Truck will run fine for awhile then all of a sudden it will start missing and shuddering and black smoke comes out the tailpipe. Then after awile it will clear up. I have replaced spark plugs, wires and fuel filter cap and rotor are about 5 months old. Any ideas?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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Having the same problem with my F-350/460. I have replaced wires, cap, rotor, plugs, fuel filter, coil, TPS (throttle position sensor), checked all vacuum lines, no apparent leaks. Still having a steady missing problem and lack of power. Will be replacing O2 sensor next and possibly removing the catalytic converter. This is my daily driver and I'm afraid that I'm going to trash my truck if I keep driving it this way. I am not sure what else to do myself. If anyone has any other ideas please give us a shout.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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Your dumping too much fuel into the cylinder.

Might check coolant temp sensors, O2 sensors, TP sensor and map sensor.

Since yours is a 96, might take it by someplace that can pull the codes on it. Autozone will usually do it for free and give you a print out you could take to a shop.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrapro
I have a 1996 f150 5.0 5spd, heres the problem. Truck will run fine for awhile then all of a sudden it will start missing and shuddering and black smoke comes out the tailpipe. Then after awile it will clear up. I have replaced spark plugs, wires and fuel filter cap and rotor are about 5 months old. Any ideas?

Codes Man Pull the codes! Like LynnL Said - take it to autozone and have them scan it.

Keep us updated!
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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Ok I took it to Advance Auto and these are the codes.
Po411
secondary air
injection system
incorrect flow
Po401
egr flow insufficient
 
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Old Apr 16, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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can't answer your codes but hope this bumps you to the top.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 06:21 AM
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Ok I took it to Advance Auto and these are the codes.
Po411
secondary air
injection system
incorrect flow
Po401
egr flow insufficient
I just checked my book and it shows neither code? and ford fuel injection only has a 411 code-and it's a idle problem during test
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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Just as advice you can buy the OBDII scanner for as little as 60 bucks from advanced auto or the 'zone. It will be better than having to wait in line for one of the counter guys to have time to come pull a code out of your computer. I would pull the plugs and see which cylinder is running rich, i.e. carboned plug. If all the plugs are black rather than a golden brown, then you may check fuel pressure at the rail to see what you come up with next.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 06:17 PM
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I know I've replaced around 50 or so EGR valves on ford trucks, usually get gummed up. It will cause a driveability issue, but not usually too much fuel.

Might check all of your wiring, a dead short to the comp. from the temp sensor will make the comp. thinks its about 0 degrees if I'm remembering it correctly.

Your MAS could be funky also, that can make it go crazy also.

I'll check ALLDaTa on Monday and shoot another post on here if you haven't got it solved by then.
 
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 07:30 PM
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when you turn key on with engine off, how long does fuel pump run?

is it always the same amount of time?
 
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 03:26 PM
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Just a quick update after checking several things I replaced the egr valve a couple of days ago and it has not done it sence. I hope that was it.
 
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