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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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I had the same symptoms, hope this info works for you.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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What exactly is the separator, and what does it do? I have never heard that term.
Does a 2000 Explorer have one?
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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It keeps the engine oil from entering your vacuum system, the part number is F77Z-6A785-AB sometimes with the heat they become very brittle and crack, they are made of plastic, they cost about $18.66 and it also comes with the o-ring seal that I told you that cracks with the heat generated under the manifold. These are the additional parts you will need to do the job:
F77Z-6C342-AB PVC hose assy $41.98
YL2Z-9E436-AA Intake Gasket $3.69
YL2Z-9461-AA Intake gasket $1.64
a small tube of silicone lube to coat the o-rings and gaskets.
I would replace the separator even if yours looks good, just to make sure!
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:07 PM
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Thanks.
I check my oil regularly and it is never low. I haven't even seen any traces of oil in my air filter. Would this eliminate the separator seal being bad?
I also just had the PCV valve and hose assembly replaced.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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I've never had any oil leaks either on my Explorer or an oil stained air filter, but I did notice oil stain from the top rear of the engine block, by the seperator. You might have to get a small mirror amd good flashlight to see.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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Al, Did you replace your intake O rings at that time? I'm not sure what level that seperator would be at.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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It's best if you do, It will elimate an extra problem when you re-assemble your tear-down.
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Roughly, how much time was involved in this? Is it a Saturday afternoon job?
 
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Old Apr 23, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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4 hour job or less
 
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Old May 5, 2009 | 06:58 AM
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So Nash, did you give the intake gaskets a try? What was the outcome. I haven't had time to have our Explorer down. It's my wife's daily driver, and I do mean daily.
 
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Old May 5, 2009 | 10:32 AM
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Me, too. I have to drive it to work daily, and I can't afford to take another day off or get a rental car.
I am not technically inclined enough to do it myself, I'll have to take it somewhere.

The dealership says that they spray the intake area, and if the spray is not "sucked up", they eliminate the intake gaskets as being leaky.

When I first crank it up, I feel an ignition miss. When it warms up, it's less noticeable. It is not noticable at all during accelration or cruising. Coming to a stoplight, the idle hovers around 900, then drops to 500 when it stops, and then idles rough.

My "list" of culprits is; oil separator/gasket, minor vacuum leak somewhere, throttle body, IAT, intake gaskets, TPS, EGR, EVAP, and TPS, for starters.

What is the difference between intake gaskets and o-rings?
 
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Old May 5, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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No difference as far as I know. The o rings sit in a grove under the intake manifold. I understand that they shrink over time and start to leak. I had them replaced on my sons 99 Explorer and it took care of his problems. The leak was hard to find using the spray method, but I could track it down on cold mornings when he first started the motor. Just sprayed starting fluid around the manifold and the idle reved up and smoothed out. As soon as the motor warmed up, I couldn't make that trick work. The mechanic argued with me that it had to be something else, but I talked him into relacing those o rings. No problem with that one since. I think my wife's Explorer is headed down the same path, but I can't seem to find a vacume leak on it.
 
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Old May 5, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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I don't understand why I only have a "miss" during idle. I don't have any problems during cruise or acceleration.

Also, it seems that this problem came on suddenly, where I think an aging gasket would give you "gradual" problems.

Another baffler is that it seems to do better if the air outside is cooler. When I first start it up and all the "choking" mechanisms are working, the only thing I notice is a miss by feeling the "pops" holding on to the steering wheel. It's intermittent, with no rhythm, However, the tach stays STEADY, and does not fluctuate at all. I would expect fluctuation with a vacuum leak.
 
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Old May 5, 2009 | 01:58 PM
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I'm not sure about those symptoms either. I asked about using smoke to check for vacume leaks and was told to use a regular smoke bomb like they sell for 4th of July. I guess you would have to remove the fan belt though, or it would just blow around. The person I spoke to said that the leak would suck in the smoke and be very visible. I may try that next.
 
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Old May 5, 2009 | 02:22 PM
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My Explorer is 9 years old with 135K miles, so I'm suspecting something major internally, like timing chain, bad valve, fuel injector or cam shaft.
I think it's time to get rid of it.
 
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