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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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Excessive cranking before start

2003 expo, 5.4L, 70k mi., had engine sputtering and DTC "#7 cylinder misfire" and long cranking before start 4/6/09. Changed all plugs, boots, springs and #7 COP on 4/7/09. First day started right up at turn of the key. Now cranking 7 to 9 seconds before starting but no "check engine warning" yet. Once running and warm, if you were to turn it off 5 to 10 minutes and try restarting it fires right up at turn of the key. Changed fuel filter when original problem of long cranking started back in Oct 2008 which didn't cure long cranking before start-up. Any suggestions? Thinking injectors, fuel pump (where is it and how much of a PITA is it to change or how do you check it out?)
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 04:21 PM
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Do you turn the key right to "start" or do you sit in the "on" position for a few seconds before starting?
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Did you check your fuel pressure?
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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Sounds like a problem with the EGR valve. Take it off and check the passageways for carbon build up.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 11:36 PM
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same titlr

turn thr key right away
 
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:11 AM
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Mr. CMK, I turn the key right away.............
 
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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They are multiple ways to turn the key, if you bring the top towards you, you go into an electric only mode. If you turn it one click away from you, its in the ON position, another click for driving, and another for cranking, by on, he is asking if you turn it 1/3 of the way, or do you just put it from off to crank without waiting.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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Usually trun key from off to crank without waiting.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by billhutch
Usually turn key from off to crank without waiting.
Me too, and it's never caused a delay in the engine firing up.
 
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Try turning the key to "on" for a few seconds before cranking and see if the truck fires up quicker. Your problem is most likely due to fuel pressure bleeding off when the truck sits for a while. Try leaving it in on for a few seconds and let me know what happens.
 
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Originally Posted by alloro
Sounds like a problem with the EGR valve. Take it off and check the passageways for carbon build up.
How does extended cranking have anything to do with the EGR valve?
 
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Old Apr 12, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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If an EGR is not fully seating and closed (usually due to carbon build up) the engine is harder to start.
 
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I am a new person to the world of cars, but my guess would be the EGR valve being unclogged helps create a little pressure in the engine when it is starting, but not so much that it backs up when done cranking?
 
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 02:11 PM
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You also could have a injector sucking AIR, That is what I had when all was said and done! My EXP. sometimes will set for a week I get right in and start it up NEVER wait, not a problem! shouldn't have to wait at all.
 
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