2000 F-350 Front Axle Problem
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2000 F-350 Front Axle Problem
Hi all,
Here's my problem. I have a 2000 F-350 Super Duty 4x4 with major front-end issues. I removed the following items on the passenger front end:
Brake Pads: Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Rotor Front:
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Rotor Back:
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Caliper bracket showing wear:
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Hub bearing:
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Does this look like a major brake problem? I was thinking of ordering new rotors and brakes from RotorPros.
Here's the big question. I found MAJOR play in the area I am pointing to in the picture. Can anyone please tell me exactly what this part is and how do I get the axle out? Could you also tell me how big of a job it is to replace it and how much it would cost to replace? Any assistance with this would be appreciated since I can't drive the truck to and from work until I fix this problem.
Thanks,
Eric
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Here's the picture of the exposed axle (where it is left at right now until I can fix it):
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Here's my problem. I have a 2000 F-350 Super Duty 4x4 with major front-end issues. I removed the following items on the passenger front end:
Brake Pads: Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Rotor Front:
Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Rotor Back:
Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Caliper bracket showing wear:
Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Hub bearing:
Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Does this look like a major brake problem? I was thinking of ordering new rotors and brakes from RotorPros.
Here's the big question. I found MAJOR play in the area I am pointing to in the picture. Can anyone please tell me exactly what this part is and how do I get the axle out? Could you also tell me how big of a job it is to replace it and how much it would cost to replace? Any assistance with this would be appreciated since I can't drive the truck to and from work until I fix this problem.
Thanks,
Eric
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Here's the picture of the exposed axle (where it is left at right now until I can fix it):
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The part you are pointing at is the axle shaft with the universal joint in it.
I would think the problem with it is caused either by what looks like a bad wheel bearing or the universal is worn/seized.
To get the axle shaft out you will have to remove the spindle (the tube that the hub rotates on). The spindle is bolted to the steering knuckle. Once that is off, depending on what axle you have the axle shaft should pull right out.
Hopefully someone who knows more about the later trucks will chime in soon.
I would think the problem with it is caused either by what looks like a bad wheel bearing or the universal is worn/seized.
To get the axle shaft out you will have to remove the spindle (the tube that the hub rotates on). The spindle is bolted to the steering knuckle. Once that is off, depending on what axle you have the axle shaft should pull right out.
Hopefully someone who knows more about the later trucks will chime in soon.
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Any ideas on how to determine that?
Thanks,
Eric
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The part you are pointing at is the axle shaft with the universal joint in it.
I would think the problem with it is caused either by what looks like a bad wheel bearing or the universal is worn/seized.
To get the axle shaft out you will have to remove the spindle (the tube that the hub rotates on). The spindle is bolted to the steering knuckle. Once that is off, depending on what axle you have the axle shaft should pull right out.
Hopefully someone who knows more about the later trucks will chime in soon.
I would think the problem with it is caused either by what looks like a bad wheel bearing or the universal is worn/seized.
To get the axle shaft out you will have to remove the spindle (the tube that the hub rotates on). The spindle is bolted to the steering knuckle. Once that is off, depending on what axle you have the axle shaft should pull right out.
Hopefully someone who knows more about the later trucks will chime in soon.
Thanks,
Eric
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The needle bearing is just to support the axle shaft, it should be sound but is not the wheel bearing. The big bearings inside the hub should rotate freely and not feel "rough" when rotated nor should they make any kind of a noise.
The spindle should be held on with bolts and once they are removed it should come off. It may need a bit of help by placing a block of wood on the spindle and hitting the wood hard with a big hammer. Do this down, sideways and up. If that doesn`t work you may have to rent a spindle puller to get it off.
The steering knuckle is attached to the axle by two ball joints. To get it off you need to remove the nuts from the ball joints and then drive a pickle fork type ball joint remover tool in between the knuckle and axle flanges to "break" the taper joint apart.
However unless you are fitting new ball joints you should not need the steering knuckle off.
The spindle should be held on with bolts and once they are removed it should come off. It may need a bit of help by placing a block of wood on the spindle and hitting the wood hard with a big hammer. Do this down, sideways and up. If that doesn`t work you may have to rent a spindle puller to get it off.
The steering knuckle is attached to the axle by two ball joints. To get it off you need to remove the nuts from the ball joints and then drive a pickle fork type ball joint remover tool in between the knuckle and axle flanges to "break" the taper joint apart.
However unless you are fitting new ball joints you should not need the steering knuckle off.
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Hi all,
Here's my problem. I have a 2000 F-350 Super Duty 4x4 with major front-end issues. I removed the following items on the passenger front end:
Brake Pads: Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Rotor Front:
Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Rotor Back:
Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Caliper bracket showing wear:
Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Hub bearing:
Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Does this look like a major brake problem? I was thinking of ordering new rotors and brakes from RotorPros.
Here's the big question. I found MAJOR play in the area I am pointing to in the picture. Can anyone please tell me exactly what this part is and how do I get the axle out? Could you also tell me how big of a job it is to replace it and how much it would cost to replace? Any assistance with this would be appreciated since I can't drive the truck to and from work until I fix this problem.
Thanks,
Eric
What is this?
Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Here's the picture of the exposed axle (where it is left at right now until I can fix it):
Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Here's my problem. I have a 2000 F-350 Super Duty 4x4 with major front-end issues. I removed the following items on the passenger front end:
Brake Pads: Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Rotor Front:
Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Rotor Back:
Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Caliper bracket showing wear:
Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Hub bearing:
Snapfish: Share Photo:Registration
Does this look like a major brake problem? I was thinking of ordering new rotors and brakes from RotorPros.
Here's the big question. I found MAJOR play in the area I am pointing to in the picture. Can anyone please tell me exactly what this part is and how do I get the axle out? Could you also tell me how big of a job it is to replace it and how much it would cost to replace? Any assistance with this would be appreciated since I can't drive the truck to and from work until I fix this problem.
Thanks,
Eric
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Here's the picture of the exposed axle (where it is left at right now until I can fix it):
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i have an 03 and had it apart up front many times...
the MAIN KNUCKLE SEAL will cause the play you are talking about
http://truckhelpdesk.com/web/ball.pdf
kenny
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Mercury 45, neat link. I was giving him wrong info. I thought it was a defferent axle. If he goes with your info he should be OK.
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i have an 03 and had it apart up front many times...
the MAIN KNUCKLE SEAL will cause the play you are talking about
http://truckhelpdesk.com/web/ball.pdf
kenny
the MAIN KNUCKLE SEAL will cause the play you are talking about
http://truckhelpdesk.com/web/ball.pdf
kenny
So are you saying that there should be play when the axle shaft is moved? Why does it move then when I had everything on before stripping it down? The main bearing seems fine. I'm still at a loss.
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play will occur if your knuckle seal is bad or non existant...
let me see if i can find a pic... here is one Knuckle seal image by DJR96 on Photobucket the knuckle seal goes on the stub shaft
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i try to make writeups for all the stuff i do with my truck... i also got one on lock out hubs
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did you review mypdf file? it shows a bad knuckle seal vs a good one i think thats in there...
play will occur if your knuckle seal is bad or non existant...
let me see if i can find a pic... here is one Knuckle seal image by DJR96 on Photobucket the knuckle seal goes on the stub shaft
kenny
play will occur if your knuckle seal is bad or non existant...
let me see if i can find a pic... here is one Knuckle seal image by DJR96 on Photobucket the knuckle seal goes on the stub shaft
kenny
Pinion Seal - Front Axle
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So if I grab the spindle and try to move it up/down/left/right, and it does move, then the knuckle seal is bad? If so, is this the correct part I need?
Pinion Seal - Front Axle
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no... to properly tell if the knuckle seal is bad... rip the hub off as you said you did already, grab the stub shaft with a rag - use my pdf for ball joints and yank on the axle shaft... you can pry the u joint to help you get it out - its got a good seal in the diff so the first time is tough.
The part you showed is a pinion seal... this goes between the pinion gear and the front driveshaft of the front differential... totally different.
here is the tool.... Lisle LIS38060 AXLE SEAL INSTALLER FORD F SERIES TRUCKS
here is where the knuckle seal (sometimes called a main seal or main axle seal) goes
http://quad4x4.com/images/front%20ax...arts%20054.jpg
pull the axle shaft out... the knuckle seal goes on the stub shaft (short axle) and the dust seal goes on the axle shaft - longer axle.
i had to get my seals at ford... but i recall somebody finding them online somewhere
they are 80 bux from ford
they are called main seal or knuckle seal NOT PINION SEAL
just making sure you know
kenny
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no... to properly tell if the knuckle seal is bad... rip the hub off as you said you did already, grab the stub shaft with a rag - use my pdf for ball joints and yank on the axle shaft... you can pry the u joint to help you get it out - its got a good seal in the diff so the first time is tough.
The part you showed is a pinion seal... this goes between the pinion gear and the front driveshaft of the front differential... totally different.
here is the tool.... Lisle LIS38060 AXLE SEAL INSTALLER FORD F SERIES TRUCKS
here is where the knuckle seal (sometimes called a main seal or main axle seal) goes
http://quad4x4.com/images/front%20ax...arts%20054.jpg
pull the axle shaft out... the knuckle seal goes on the stub shaft (short axle) and the dust seal goes on the axle shaft - longer axle.
i had to get my seals at ford... but i recall somebody finding them online somewhere
they are 80 bux from ford
they are called main seal or knuckle seal NOT PINION SEAL
just making sure you know
kenny
The part you showed is a pinion seal... this goes between the pinion gear and the front driveshaft of the front differential... totally different.
here is the tool.... Lisle LIS38060 AXLE SEAL INSTALLER FORD F SERIES TRUCKS
here is where the knuckle seal (sometimes called a main seal or main axle seal) goes
http://quad4x4.com/images/front%20ax...arts%20054.jpg
pull the axle shaft out... the knuckle seal goes on the stub shaft (short axle) and the dust seal goes on the axle shaft - longer axle.
i had to get my seals at ford... but i recall somebody finding them online somewhere
they are 80 bux from ford
they are called main seal or knuckle seal NOT PINION SEAL
just making sure you know
kenny
Thanks,
Eric