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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 08:29 AM
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Turbo sputters @ 7% grade - empty

We drove through the mountains for about 400 miles and the truck cannot maintain 65mph in 6th gear going up a 7% grade with zero load. The turbo started this rhythmic wiffing/sputtering until I let off the skinny pedal. It would start doing it at 60mph at 7% grade in 6th gear. Anything below 60mph and it was good.

I'm a bit disappointed because our '04 Cummins would rampage up those hills accelerating more at 75mph with an old, steel 4 horse stock trailer.

What is the turbo doing when this happens? Any idea how to make this thing move up a friggin' hill without sputtering out? We're going to go put a 3-4 horse slant bumper pull on the back of this pig today to pick up one horse and one ton of alfalfa. The rig better pull this nothing of a load effortlessly.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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Is it bone stock ? What gears are you running ? Give us some more info .
 
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 08:51 AM
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Do you have a chip or tuner? Any other mods? I can't see you having turbo surge at that low of an RPM stock. Someone here has a clip of turbo surge. We need to find it to see if we're talking about the same sound.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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That is exactly what mine did. Between 60-65 mph was a hard speed to maintain on a grade because of turbo stall. Over 70 mph and below 60 mph I had no problem. When I was empty I could do over 70mph but with a loaded trailer I had to slow down and down shift to avoid the turbo stall. I put an Aero Turbine muffler on when I did my exhaust and the turbo stall is almost completely gone. Keep the rpms over 2200 and you should be able to pull whatever you want.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:03 AM
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Are you sure you don't have fuel supply issue like a dirty filter?
 
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:08 AM
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I'll agree with keeping it over 2200 rpms to maintain power, but I've never had any turbo stall under similar conditions.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by F350-6
Do you have a chip or tuner? Any other mods? I can't see you having turbo surge at that low of an RPM. Someone here has a clip of turbo surge. We need to find it to see if we're talking about the same sound.
Mine would surge bad between 60 -65 pulling a grade with no load when we put my chip in but a WW solved that. I have 4:10 gears he may also.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:09 AM
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Here is the link for the turbo surge.
YouTube - 1999 Ford F350 7.3 Compressor Surge
 
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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Thanks Deven I couldn't find one.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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Not a problem that is what I used to figure mine out.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by F350-6
I'll agree with keeping it over 2200 rpms to maintain power, but I've never had any turbo stall under similar conditions.
I never noticed stall until installed a 6637 and I took my stock muffler off. It would start at 1800 and continue until about 2100 rpms. On a 5% grade I would actually lose speed unless I could floor it and get over 70 mph or have to drop a gear and slow down. Dropping out of sixth gear at 60 mph ran about 2600 rpms

I had an Areo Turbine laying around for about 2 years because I picked it up cheap. I read all the info and figured it can't hurt. So when I did my exhaust last fall I put it on and so far have been impressed. The biggest thing was when I had the cruise set to 67 mph pulling a 5.5% grade the turbo stall was almost completely gone. I get some stall when towing heavy, but it is much easier to work around it now.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 11:07 AM
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I never noticed stall until installed a 6637 and I took my stock muffler off. It would start at 1800 and continue until about 2100 rpms. On a 5% grade I would actually lose speed unless I could floor it and get over 70 mph or have to drop a gear and slow down. Dropping out of sixth gear at 60 mph ran about 2600 rpms

I had an Areo Turbine laying around for about 2 years because I picked it up cheap. I read all the info and figured it can't hurt. So when I did my exhaust last fall I put it on and so far have been impressed. The biggest thing was when I had the cruise set to 67 mph pulling a 5.5% grade the turbo stall was almost completely gone. I get some stall when towing heavy, but it is much easier to work around it now.
As Dave mentioned, the wicked wheel is the cheapest fix for that.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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Another vote for the WW to cure the surge.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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Waiting on my WW in the mail to cure my surge. Want to fully enjoy my 80 two DP setting on a trip to Idaho in May and am confident that it will cure any problems. By the way, nice avitar 1996pwrstrk.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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Jason, if ya need some help let me know, I've done a few WW. We have a shop to work in on Franklin & Cloverdale in Meridian.
 
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