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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 03:14 PM
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longer cranking time

I happen to notice my neighbors powerstroke, and a few others that I have seen at the fuel pumps all seem to start with less cranking than mine...this being my first diesel has me a bit confused. is this glow plug related? injectors? or something else?
When the engine is warm, the "wait to start" light only comes on for a second or two, but still requires a longer crank to start. (prob 2 seconds or so)
It has 220,000 miles, and I dont know the service history.
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 04:04 PM
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Mine has 210,000 miles and was cranking longer than everybody elses. When was the last time you changed the oil? Fuel filter? Air filter? I did a complete service on mine and it made a world of difference. Because the injectors depend on oil pressure to operate properly, dirty oil or a low oil level (mine was 8 quarts low when I bought it! Took a while to start.) Dirty fuel filter and even a weak lift pump could cause all of the above. The wait to start light is just the glow plug light, when the truck is warm, they are not very necessary, so I would say not to worry about that just yet. If you haven't already, do the above things and re post to let us know how it worked.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 05:05 PM
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mine also takes a little to start. is there something that controls how long the wait to start light stays on. even when my truck is warm, 70* outside, the wait to start light stays on the same amount of time. seems long to me. but im also comparing to my 6.0 F350 at work i guess.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by spot_the_magic_F350
Mine has 210,000 miles and was cranking longer than everybody elses. When was the last time you changed the oil? Fuel filter? Air filter? I did a complete service on mine and it made a world of difference. Because the injectors depend on oil pressure to operate properly, dirty oil or a low oil level (mine was 8 quarts low when I bought it! Took a while to start.) Dirty fuel filter and even a weak lift pump could cause all of the above. The wait to start light is just the glow plug light, when the truck is warm, they are not very necessary, so I would say not to worry about that just yet. If you haven't already, do the above things and re post to let us know how it worked.
Thanks for the reply, you may be right, I just bought it (and it was three quarts low) i topped it off with the same oil as the previous owner, but have yet to do a full service. I plan on changing the oil (Rotella syn), oil filter, air filter, fuel filter, and the trans fluid in two more weeks when I get more time (and cash) I will let you know the outcome. Thanks again
 
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hgoody77
mine also takes a little to start. is there something that controls how long the wait to start light stays on. even when my truck is warm, 70* outside, the wait to start light stays on the same amount of time. seems long to me. but im also comparing to my 6.0 F350 at work i guess.
There are two sensors, barametric pressure, and oil temp sensors that determine how long the glow plugs are "lit" one of those may be bad. Maybe someone can give you some more info and where the sensors are located. I know the warmer my engine gets, the less time the light stays on.
Hope that helps
 
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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I noticed also that if you have bad glow plugs, the light stays on for a shorter time because the relay depends on resistance to build before turning them off. I think its only a glow plug controller.
 
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