Using Laptop w/OBD2USB adapter & scanner software...
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Autoenginuity enables you to do that. You are able to set when it starts datalogging if you don't want to have to physically hit the "start" button. Let's say you have a problem an intermittant problem with the tranny that starts when the tranny temp hits 150 or so. You set one of the live sensors to be TFT(tranny fluid temp) you can tell it to start logging at 150 or how much earlier you want it to be. As soon as it hits that desired temp, it starts logging. You don't need a second person or anything like that. You can have it sound alarms, log, or both at the same time. Now to properly diagnose the problem I'm sure you'll need to have more then one sensor going, but I was just trying to simplify in order to demonstrate one option that autoenginuity allows you to do. You don't need to have two people with how autoenginuity is setup but you can have it.
Tuned
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I emailed auto enginuity but the software does not monitor the two things I want; Fule pressure and oil pressure. Too bad, because the software is a whole lot cheaper than purchase and install two more autometer gauges.
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There is nothing that is able to pull fuel and oil pressure from the OBD-II computer for ford, they don't have that tied into the diesel engines(I don't think they are tied in for any domestic diesel engine) so you would have to get an analog gauge to get that signal no matter what computer software you went with. It isn't a failing of the software it's a shortcoming of what is on the computers of diesel vehicles.
Tuned
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I hate to say this specifically to you, but they are autometer ones(ironic huh).
There is nothing that is able to pull fuel and oil pressure from the OBD-II computer for ford, they don't have that tied into the diesel engines(I don't think they are tied in for any domestic diesel engine) so you would have to get an analog gauge to get that signal no matter what computer software you went with. It isn't a failing of the software it's a shortcoming of what is on the computers of diesel vehicles.
There is nothing that is able to pull fuel and oil pressure from the OBD-II computer for ford, they don't have that tied into the diesel engines(I don't think they are tied in for any domestic diesel engine) so you would have to get an analog gauge to get that signal no matter what computer software you went with. It isn't a failing of the software it's a shortcoming of what is on the computers of diesel vehicles.
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I mounted the fuel pressure sending unit on the regulator of my Fuel Regulated Return kit(which you may or may not have depending on if you did that mod) and for oil I put it on the filter cap(I would recommend you replace the factory cap with a billet one, don't need to, but for peace of mind I would).
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I recieved this answer From ScanTool.net. It may well be that once all the additional enhancements and programs thet there is not a lot of difference in the price.
Dear David,
Thank you for your interest in our products. To answer your first question, with the scan tool and your laptop connected to the DLC, you can run the diagnostics continuously.
Regarding your questions about the ElmScan 5 (P/N 421200), because our scan tools are PC based, their functionality depends, for the most part, on the software used. The free ScanTool.net 1.14 software that comes with our scan tools can:
1) Clear/reset emissions-related diagnostic information, including erasing DTCs and turning off the "Check Engine" light.
2) Read both pending and stored diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs), both generic and manufacturer-specific, and display their meaning (over 3000 generic code definitions in the database).
3) Display real-time vehicle parameters including:
* Engine RPM
* Calculated Load Value
* Coolant Temperature
* Fuel System Status
* Vehicle Speed
* Short Term Fuel Trim
* Long Term Fuel Trim
* Intake Manifold Pressure
* Timing Advance
* Intake Air Temperature
* Air Flow Rate
* Absolute Throttle Position
* Oxygen sensor voltages/associated short term fuel trims
* Fuel System status
* Fuel Pressure
* Many others...
Enhanced features are available in third-party software such as ScanMaster and ScanXL, which include (but are not limited to):
- Data logging
- Virtual dashboard
- Freeze frame
- O2 sensor monitoring test results
- Continuous monitoring test results
- Non-continuous monitoring test results
- Electronic VIN
- Calibration IDs
Because you intend to use the product with a Ford vehicle, there is also another software program specific to Ford Vehicles. This program is called ScanXL Ford Enhanced Add-on (you must have ScanXL).
With generic only OBD-II scan tools you often cannot service some vehicle systems like ABS, airbag, or other proprietary systems. Using the ScanXL Ford Enhanced Diagnostic Add-on, you can now have access to dealer-level diagnostic capabilities for not only the powertrain systems, but also ABS, airbag, and other proprietary systems that would otherwise require expensive dealer tools. This program also adds thousands of new parameters and sensors for both gasoline and diesel Ford vehicles.
If there is anything else we can help you with, please let us know.
Sincerely,
Avary
Dear David,
Thank you for your interest in our products. To answer your first question, with the scan tool and your laptop connected to the DLC, you can run the diagnostics continuously.
Regarding your questions about the ElmScan 5 (P/N 421200), because our scan tools are PC based, their functionality depends, for the most part, on the software used. The free ScanTool.net 1.14 software that comes with our scan tools can:
1) Clear/reset emissions-related diagnostic information, including erasing DTCs and turning off the "Check Engine" light.
2) Read both pending and stored diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs), both generic and manufacturer-specific, and display their meaning (over 3000 generic code definitions in the database).
3) Display real-time vehicle parameters including:
* Engine RPM
* Calculated Load Value
* Coolant Temperature
* Fuel System Status
* Vehicle Speed
* Short Term Fuel Trim
* Long Term Fuel Trim
* Intake Manifold Pressure
* Timing Advance
* Intake Air Temperature
* Air Flow Rate
* Absolute Throttle Position
* Oxygen sensor voltages/associated short term fuel trims
* Fuel System status
* Fuel Pressure
* Many others...
Enhanced features are available in third-party software such as ScanMaster and ScanXL, which include (but are not limited to):
- Data logging
- Virtual dashboard
- Freeze frame
- O2 sensor monitoring test results
- Continuous monitoring test results
- Non-continuous monitoring test results
- Electronic VIN
- Calibration IDs
Because you intend to use the product with a Ford vehicle, there is also another software program specific to Ford Vehicles. This program is called ScanXL Ford Enhanced Add-on (you must have ScanXL).
With generic only OBD-II scan tools you often cannot service some vehicle systems like ABS, airbag, or other proprietary systems. Using the ScanXL Ford Enhanced Diagnostic Add-on, you can now have access to dealer-level diagnostic capabilities for not only the powertrain systems, but also ABS, airbag, and other proprietary systems that would otherwise require expensive dealer tools. This program also adds thousands of new parameters and sensors for both gasoline and diesel Ford vehicles.
If there is anything else we can help you with, please let us know.
Sincerely,
Avary
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Did you or did you not tell them this is for a diesel. Some of that stuff you will not be able to use because our trucks are not OBD-II complaint. In other words to actually read a diesel you have to by default get the enhanced options no matter which one you go by.
What about offline viewing? Will it enable you to do some programming as well? I know with the toyota enhancement I can change the distance for the radar cruise control and the rain sensor for the windshield wipers.
What about offline viewing? Will it enable you to do some programming as well? I know with the toyota enhancement I can change the distance for the radar cruise control and the rain sensor for the windshield wipers.
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Did you or did you not tell them this is for a diesel. Some of that stuff you will not be able to use because our trucks are not OBD-II complaint. In other words to actually read a diesel you have to by default get the enhanced options no matter which one you go by.
Yeah, I did tell them specifically it was for an '03 6.0L PS Diesel. But then again, it wouldn't be the first time someone didn't pay attention. According to them they have it all but it's a matter of buying the right software. By the time I bought all of that stuff I would be spending just as much probably.
What about offline viewing? Will it enable you to do some programming as well? I know with the toyota enhancement I can change the distance for the radar cruise control and the rain sensor for the windshield wipers.
Yeah, I did tell them specifically it was for an '03 6.0L PS Diesel. But then again, it wouldn't be the first time someone didn't pay attention. According to them they have it all but it's a matter of buying the right software. By the time I bought all of that stuff I would be spending just as much probably.
What about offline viewing? Will it enable you to do some programming as well? I know with the toyota enhancement I can change the distance for the radar cruise control and the rain sensor for the windshield wipers.
I assume by offline viewing you are talking about looking at a playback of logged data from the computer after it has been disconnected. Right???
As for Toyota andf rain sensors, I couldn't care less. Don't own one, never will.
Later Man...
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I haven't done much with the Ford as I have the DashDAQ which does datalogging and it has enhancement sensors like autoenginuity, so as far as datalogging goes that is the easiest right now. Now datalogging is about as far as it is equal with the Autoenginuity software and even then I can't tell it to datalog when sensors hit certain readings so it is still limited in that regard. The other abilities of autoenginuity blow away dashdaq, but then again there are some things that the dashdaq blows away autoenginuity.
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I didn't say that you will, I merely stated that as to show what the Autoenginuity software is capable of as that is what I have had experiance with firsthand. How nitty gritty the software can get with the programming of the vehicle's sensors. Didn't mean to rise latent hostility to none Ford brands.
I haven't done much with the Ford as I have the DashDAQ which does datalogging and it has enhancement sensors like autoenginuity, so as far as datalogging goes that is the easiest right now. Now datalogging is about as far as it is equal with the Autoenginuity software and even then I can't tell it to datalog when sensors hit certain readings so it is still limited in that regard. The other abilities of autoenginuity blow away dashdaq, but then again there are some things that the dashdaq blows away autoenginuity.
I haven't done much with the Ford as I have the DashDAQ which does datalogging and it has enhancement sensors like autoenginuity, so as far as datalogging goes that is the easiest right now. Now datalogging is about as far as it is equal with the Autoenginuity software and even then I can't tell it to datalog when sensors hit certain readings so it is still limited in that regard. The other abilities of autoenginuity blow away dashdaq, but then again there are some things that the dashdaq blows away autoenginuity.
Sorry about that... I guess it came off a bit different than intended. I meant it more in the nature of sarcasm than to indicate my hostility. As much as I hate to admit it, all things being considered, they seem to be decent vehicles. At least that is what two of my neighbors tell me. There is just something inside me that WILL NEVER let me warm up to them.
From what I gather here, the AE set up appears to be the way to go if the overwhelming opinions expressed here are any indication. I looked at the sites mentioned above and looked things over. Just so I'm clear on this... When I spend the $350.00 that will cover all I need, Right??? I really hate it when I think I have everything and then it turns out I need something else like additional software that cost as much as I have spent already.
Now, tell me about Dashdaq... Give me a sitye URL to look at.
Thanks for your reply.
Later Man...
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Be very specific and name off everthing that you are looking for, even the small stuff in order me to say if it will fit you are not(although I'm willing to bet it will).
The only thing that I can see that you've mentioned so far tends to be datalogging and live view of sensors(both of which it will do), but is there specifically stuff your looking for within that to see if it can do(certain sensors or how it datalogs etc.)?
Also just to make sure, since you mentioned $350 I'm going to assume that you are getting the enhanced Ford package which your forced to get no matter what scan tool you chose because our diesel trucks are not OBD-II comp. so you have to get those extra licenses to make it work(sucks, but it is what it is).
I'm just trying to avoid you getting the purchase after I heavily raved about it and it not do exactly what your wanting it to do. I'm willing to doubt that will happen with the autoenginuity software, but I want to make sure it doesn't happen for sure.
