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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 09:00 PM
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From what I've seen most of the PCM's are interchangeable if they are the same configuration for TESTING PURPOSES. If you use an older PCM in a newer truck like mine, the guages won't work since they are bus communication and a couple of other things won't work right, but I've heard guys that have done this to test the starting.

The computer type and programming code are important. You have to stay within the same computer familiy, programming revisions can vary. PMT1 and PMT2 are programming code on a DPC 422 pcm.

For isntance mine is a DPC 462, and I can use vdh1 to nwm0 code.
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I checked the link, but really don't understand what I am looking for. I know off hand I have a DPC-422, other than that.. I'll have to look at it.

if I understand correctly, you are saying I can use others, as long at they are DPC-422?
 
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No, that isn't what I'm saying, or what I said.

You can use a different PCM to test your truck from another truck that is similar in configuration. Configuration being, 7.3 auto federal emissions, or 7.3 manual california but between different years. A manual truck PCM won't work the transmission on an auto truck if at all, but an auto truck PCM may work a manual truck. If they aren't the proper year other things may not function properly. But you should be able to start and run your truck.

The "processor" or type is most important, with the "program" or code being second. Codes are processor specific, so a 01 will never have a code that matches a 99 since they are different processors. From what I can tell, the truck will run best or like it did before with a code that matches your current configuration. But it has to be the right processor regardless of code since you can flash the right PCM to the proper code. With a little research you can find superseded codes that may offer improvements. Or, as some have mentioned, you can go to an older code that works better, like going to PMT1 from PMT2. Or forwards upgrading from code XLE1 which is a DPC 402 processor to a PMT1 which is a DPC 422.

So in your case being an 01 DPC 422, 7.3 automatic federal emissions, you can use a lot of different codes and several different PCM's. The best being a DPC 422, and most like PMT1 code. You can use one of your friends 99 to test, since a lot of 99 guys upgrade to the DPC 422 PMT1 anyway.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2009 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by aldridgec
No, that isn't what I'm saying, or what I said.

You can use a different PCM to test your truck from another truck that is similar in configuration. Configuration being, 7.3 auto federal emissions, or 7.3 manual california but between different years. A manual truck PCM won't work the transmission on an auto truck if at all, but an auto truck PCM may work a manual truck. If they aren't the proper year other things may not function properly. But you should be able to start and run your truck.

The "processor" or type is most important, with the "program" or code being second. Codes are processor specific, so a 01 will never have a code that matches a 99 since they are different processors. From what I can tell, the truck will run best or like it did before with a code that matches your current configuration. But it has to be the right processor regardless of code since you can flash the right PCM to the proper code. With a little research you can find superseded codes that may offer improvements. Or, as some have mentioned, you can go to an older code that works better, like going to PMT1 from PMT2. Or forwards upgrading from code XLE1 which is a DPC 402 processor to a PMT1 which is a DPC 422.

So in your case being an 01 DPC 422, 7.3 automatic federal emissions, you can use a lot of different codes and several different PCM's. The best being a DPC 422, and most like PMT1 code. You can use one of your friends 99 to test, since a lot of 99 guys upgrade to the DPC 422 PMT1 anyway.
Short and sweet version- you can put any non-Cali emissions PCM in your truck to see if it will start/run. A manual trans PCM won't run your auto trans, but should let you start the engine. This will at least tell you if your PCM is hosed or not. Or, take your PCM and swap it to a friend's rig and see if it will fire (chip removed).
 
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if you have the PMT2 in your truck now...any of these will fit..but the chip may not...

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YEAR VEHICLE ENGINE TEMPLATE ECM PART # CALIB MODL TYPE SIZE CSUM CODE APPLICATION MODULE APPLICATION
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE3R2 XC3F-ND 9DTA-ARB DPC-422 216 A915 FIF2 PHN131 50S/AUTO/COLD
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE5S2 XU2F-ABA 9DTA-ASC DPC-422 216 F043 RXM0 P131 SERVICE
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE3S5 XC3F-ERD 9DTA-ASC DPC-422 216 9052 AGD3 P131 50S/WARM/AUTO
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE3S3 XC3F-RD 9DTA-ASB DPC-422 216 9721 AGD2 PHN131 50S/AUTO/WARM
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE1S4 XC3F-RC 9DTA-ASA DPC-422 216 E8 AGD1 PHN131 50S/AUTO/WARM
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE0S2 XC3F-RB 9DTA-ASA DPC-422 216 7B1A AGD0 F450/550/560 50S/A/T/WARM WEATHER
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE7R2 XU2F-ZC 9DTA-ARC DPC-422 216 E02A YEV2 P131 N/A
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE6R4 XU2F-ZB 9DTA-ARC DPC-422 216 E435 YEV1 P131 F250/350
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE5R3 XU2F-ZA 9DTA-ARC DPC-422 216 C964 YEV0 P131 SERVICE
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE1R4 XC3F-NC 9DTA-ARA DPC-422 216 F7CF FIF1 PHN131 50S/AUTO/COLD
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE0R2 XC3F-NB 9DTA-ARA DPC-422 216 8A11 FIF0 F250/350 49S/A/T/WARM WEATHER
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE3R4 XC3F-END 9DTA-ARC DPC-422 216 A345 FIF3 P131 FED/WARM/AUTO
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE6S4 XU2F-ABB 9DTA-ASC DPC-422 216 0819 RXM1 P131 F450/550
2001 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VRAA7W3 1C3F-ATB 1F719W0A10 DPC-422 216 681E JLJ1
2001 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VRAA7W2 1C3F-ATA 1F719W0A00 DPC-422 216 681C JLJ0
2001 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VRAA7T6 1C3F-ADD 1F719T0A11 DPC-422 216 6703 BKA3
2001 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VRAA7T5 1C3F-ADC 1F719T0A10 DPC-422 216 6700 BKA2 450/550 A 4.88 50S P131/U137
2001 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VRAA6T3 1C3F-ADB 1F719T0A05 DPC-422 216 2F95 BKA1 P131 N/A
2001 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VRAA4T4 1C3F-ADA 1F719T0A00 DPC-422 216 1FE2 BKA0
2001 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VRAA7S6 1C3F-ZD 1F719S0A11 DPC-422 216 5A0A PMT3
2001 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VRAA7S5 1C3F-ZC 1F719S0A10 DPC-422 216 5A07 PMT2 DIESEL 250/350 INCREASES CLUTCH PRESSURE OVER PMT1
2001 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VRAA6S3 1C3F-ZB 1F719S0A05 DPC-422 216 219C PMT1 P131 N/A
2001 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VRAA4S4 1C3F-ZA 1F719S0A00 DPC-422 216 0EEB PMT0
2001 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VRAA7P6 1C3F-AED 1F719P0B11 DPC-422 216 75FA KRK3
2001 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VRAA7P5 1C3F-AEC 1F719P0B10 DPC-422 216 76F6 KRK2 450/550 4.88 CFF/LEV P131/U137
2001 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VRAA6P3 1C3F-AEB 1F719P0B05 DPC-422 216 3F8B KRK1 P131 N/A
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE7U3 XU2F-RD 9DTA-AUC DPC-422 216 EF1D MRT3
2000 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VNAAAT2 XU7F-BA 0F729T0A00 DPC-422 216 LSL0 LSL0 P131 N/A
2000 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VNAB6P2 YU7F-CA 0F719P0B12 DPC-422 216 6353 HAM0 P131 N/A
2000 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VNAAAT3 XU7F-BB 0F729T0A00 DPC-422 216 216D LSL1
2000 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VNAA8U5 XC3F-BF 9DTA-AUD DPC-422 216 E6BF NVK4 P131 DIESEL/49S
2000 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VNAA9S4 XC3F-BG 0F729S0A00 DPC-422 216 01BD NVK5 ECONO F250/350
2000 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VNAAAS2 XU7F-AA 0F729S0A00 DPC-422 216 FB8F MNM0 P131 N/A
2001 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VRAA4P6 1C3F-AEA 1F719P0B00 DPC-422 216 26DD KRK0
2000 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VNAA9T4 XC3F-PG 0F729T0A00 DPC-422 216 28A4 CNH5 P131 F450/550
2000 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VNAB5P3 YC3F-BCB 0F719P0B12 DPC-422 216 6B38 YLE1 P131 CACKLE FIX
2000 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VNAAAS3 XU7F-AB 0F729S0A00 DPC-422 216 FB92 MNM1
2000 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VNAB6P3 YU7F-CB 0F719P0B12 DPC-422 216 6455 HAM1
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE7V3 XU2F-AAD 9DTA-AVC DPC-422 216 1209 LVS3
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE7S3 XU2F-ABD 9DTA-ASC DPC-422 216 0511 RXM3
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE7R3 XU2F-ZD 9DTA-ARC DPC-422 216 E12C YEV3
2000 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VNAB1P6 YC3F-BCA 0F719P0B11 DPC-422 216 B201 YLE0 F450/550 AUTO CFFV P131
2000 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VNAA8V7 XC3F-PF 9DTA-AVD DPC-422 216 0CA8 CNH4 P131 DIESEL/50S
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE5V4 XU2F-AAA 9DTA-AVC DPC-422 216 FF3B LVS0 P131 SERVICE
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE7S2 XU2F-ABC 9DTA-ASC DPC-422 216 050E RXM2 P131 N/A
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE6V4 XU2F-AAB 9DTA-AVC DPC-422 216 1610 LVS1 P131 F450/550
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE3V5 XC3F-EPD 9DTA-AVC DPC-422 216 9B49 CNH3 P131 50S/COLD/AUTO
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE3V3 XC3F-PD 9DTA-AVB DPC-422 216 A119 CNH2 PHN131 50S/AUTO/COLD
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE1V5 XC3F-PC 9DTA-AVA DPC-422 216 F2D1 CNH1 PHN131 50S/AUTO/COLD
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE0V4 XC3F-PB 9DTA-AVA DPC-422 216 8414 CNH0 F450/550/560 50S/A/T/COLD WEATHER
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE6U4 XU2F-RB 9DTA-AUC DPC-422 216 F225 MRT1 P131 F250/350
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE5U5 XU2F-RA 9DTA-AUC DPC-422 216 DB51 MRT0 P131 SERVICE
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE3U5 XC3F-EBD 9DTA-AUC DPC-422 216 A937 NVK3 P131 FED/COLD/AUTO
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE3U3 XC3F-BD 9DTA-AUB DPC-422 216 B006 NVK2 PHN131 49S/AUTO/COLD
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE1U4 XC3F-BC 9DTA-AUA DPC-422 216 00BE NVK1 PHN131 FED/AUTO/COLD WEATHR
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE0U4 XC3F-BB 9DTA-AUA DPC-422 216 9302 NVK0 F250/350 49S/A/T/COLD WEATHER
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE7U2 XU2F-RC 9DTA-AUC DPC-422 216 EE1A MRT2 P131 N/A
1999 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VJAE7V2 XU2F-AAC 9DTA-AVC DPC-422 216 1305 LVS2 P131 N/A
 
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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Ok, sorry.. I misunderstood. This is all new to me.. I'm not going to try & pull my PCM in the dark, but I found the paper I had from when I ordered my chip. I had DPC-422 & PMT3 wrote down.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 12:22 AM
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Ron- the chip should work with any of those. When I talked to Jody a while back, he told me I could even plug my PMT2 tuned chip into my early 99 computer and run it if I needed to and it would run fine!
 
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ghig1967
Ok, sorry.. I misunderstood. This is all new to me.. I'm not going to try & pull my PCM in the dark, but I found the paper I had from when I ordered my chip. I had DPC-422 & PMT3 wrote down.
Its easy sleasy, I did it last night!
 
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by superduty4x4
Its easy sleasy, I did it last night!
I guess you are right. I had it in & out so many times the other day.. I should be able to do it blind folded. My next question is, if i find out my PCM is fried.. How do I go about getting what I need for a replacement? Junkyard? Internet? And how Will I know what WILL work, so I don't end up making a costly mistake & getting something that won't do what I need it to do? Does it have to be exactly what I have for my truck to run the same & to match up to what I have burned on my DP Tuner?
 
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Old Mar 23, 2009 | 12:46 AM
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I recommend car-part.com for a replacement PCM or the junkyard. I got mine at car-part.com and paid $80 shipped. As for what will work- use the list Ron posted above. Any of them will work in your truck and with your DP Tuner.
When you run the search on car-part.com, I think you need to select "engine computer" from the drop-down list. Use the calibration code (6th column in the list Ron posted) to help narrow your search down.
 
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I recommend car-part.com for a replacement PCM or the junkyard. I got mine at car-part.com and paid $80 shipped. As for what will work- use the list Ron posted above. Any of them will work in your truck and with your DP Tuner.
When you run the search on car-part.com, I think you need to select "engine computer" from the drop-down list. Use the calibration code (6th column in the list Ron posted) to help narrow your search down.
Ok, thanks.. I was looking at car-part.com earlier & had NO idea what I was looking at.. It was like I was reading chinese. The info you guys have given me has helped tremendously !!! I really appreciate it..
 
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I checked out Car-Parts.com.. From what I can tell I have the following PCM in my truck now
2001 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VRAA7S6 1C3F-ZD 1F719S0A11 DPC-422 216 5A0A PMT3

I found one at a salvage yard about 20 miles from me it says 1C3F-ZC

On rons list, i'm guessing thats this one
2001 F-Series 7.3L DI TC VRAA7S5 1C3F-ZC 1F719S0A10 DPC-422 216 5A07 PMT2 DIESEL 250/350 INCREASES CLUTCH PRESSURE OVER PMT1

What would be the difference in the two & would this one work for me?
 
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bump.... ???
 
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I don't know the exact differences between PMT 3 and PMT 2 code. however, it would work, it would be one software update before yours.
 
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Originally Posted by aldridgec
I don't know the exact differences between PMT 3 and PMT 2 code. however, it would work, it would be one software update before yours.
Me either, but the PMT2 is a good PCM. If the price is right, get it. Your DP tuner will over-ride it anyways. All Jody's tuning is bases on PMT1 settings, which is almost the same as PMT2. Long story short, that PCM will work fine for you.
 
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Me either, but the PMT2 is a good PCM. If the price is right, get it. Your DP tuner will over-ride it anyways. All Jody's tuning is bases on PMT1 settings, which is almost the same as PMT2. Long story short, that PCM will work fine for you.

Well... 3 PCM's later my truck still won't start. I tried my nephews from his truck (an NVK3) & nothing. His truck has been sitting since he put a hole in his block.. so I started thinking maybe something was wrong with his, so I went & bought the one I mentioned, a PMT2 & still the same results.. won't start... There's something else there that I am missing I'm sure its possible, but whats the odds of all 3 PCM's being bad?
 
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