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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 06:21 AM
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I hope I don't live long enough and this happens after I am in Heaven...
You want to die within 3 years?!!!?

2012 is right around the corner, muh-man.......
 
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 09:06 AM
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yeah, I can see how no one would figure out how to use generators to pump fuel out of the ground as well.

these guys that come up with these scenarios I am betting have trouble with technical tasks like...changing lightbulbs, using jumper cables, unclogging toilets...
 
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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Not really that new. This theory has been around sincethe 70`s when Sitchin coined it from reading ancient sumerian texts.

I have to belive that they wouldnt have wrote down a fictional story on clay tablets when they wrote down day to day life and kept records of everything.

I have to say that there is another planet and another mini solar system with in ours but its no wheres near us yet. Sitchin doesnt belive Planet X or Nibru as the Sumerians called it to be near earth til 2080 - 2090. The planet/solar system has a 2,500 year orbit.

I know it seems far fetched but the thing is what about Nasa, they have found more an more solar systems out in the universe to be of a binary star system. Why isnt ours a binary star system? What about Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune?

Thing is our solar system has to be a binary star system.

Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptun has all the classic signs from my research to be ancient brown dwarfs that has cooled down. As a brown dwarf cools down they develope a very complex atmosphere. Not to mention the atmosphere in all of the gas giants are roughly the same composition of our sun.

Why did they become brown dwarfs? they didnt have enough mass for them to keep up their thermonuclear reaction like our sun so they glowed very dimly and put out alot of heat but cooled down very quickly.

Then I did my own research on the Sumerian "mythology" you could call it by charting out a "family" tree you could call it and find out that there all linked , not to mention the E-Mah in Babylon (present day Iraq) was dedicated to the Goddess Ninhursag. Interesting thing about this is Ninhursag was a Sumerian Goddess, half sister and consort to Enki son of Anu (An). Then you got the Annunaki who are gods in the Sumerian text. They are giants and then in the bible you have David and Giolath (I know i butchered the spelling) is a battle against a giant where David kills a giant. I dont think that is just by coinicedence.

Back to the Sumerian gods you got three type you have the Annunaki the well known gods and goddess, you got the Annuna which are like the Annunaki but not as well known and then you got the Igigi`s the watchers that watches over man kind. These watchers are claimed to have the power of flight and are always dipected with wings.

Strange thing because angels in the bible watches over man and do the bidding of god and is always shown with wings.

Then further more the creation story in the Jewish, Hebew, and Christian bible traces back to Babylonian stories which further traces back to Sumeria. On top of all that, there is a Sumerian flood story about a deluge that flooded the world. Same story is found else where.

I just find it interesting how so many religions are linked together that there has to be some historical truth to them. Even if they say they are mythology who are we to say what is and isnt true. We dont know the context that the stories were written in or even if they were written as ficional reading. I just dont see people back then doing just that. I see them keeping records of historical accounts and we just have to figure out which ones are the exact historical stories, which ones are historical stories and which ones are historical stories with human spin put on them. Example would be Moses parting the red sea. That very well could be a human spin put on a historical event to make it more dramatic.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 11:33 AM
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OK, is that your final answer?
 
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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OK, is that your final answer?


Hey, at least his astronomy is spot on. The gas giants are failed stars & most stars systems are binary.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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NOTE ON NIBIRU

"Ask an Astrobiologist" has been receiving several questions per day about Nibiru. Use the search engine to look up previously posted answers. The bottom line is that Nibiru does not exist, it is not he same as the dwarf planet Eris, and NASA has never discovered or detected Nibiru or anything remotely like it. Nibiru is simply a fake, a hoax. That is the blunt truth.

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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by modar
NOTE ON NIBIRU

"Ask an Astrobiologist" has been receiving several questions per day about Nibiru. Use the search engine to look up previously posted answers. The bottom line is that Nibiru does not exist, it is not he same as the dwarf planet Eris, and NASA has never discovered or detected Nibiru or anything remotely like it. Nibiru is simply a fake, a hoax. That is the blunt truth.

David Morrison
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Hmmm and how do hey know this, we have only mapped 1/4 of the sky. How do we know this binary star of our system isnt somewheres in he other 3/4?

How do we know the government isnt lieing to us to prevent a panic?

I mean after all the govenment keeps alot of secrets from the general public in the name of "national security". We just dont know and we wont know cause the binary mini solar system is belived to not come back between earth and mars or earth and venus till arund 2080 -2090. Would be too far away to find especially if the sun is a brown dwarf and or has a comet like orbit that is way outside of our solar plane.

Thing is I just would rather keep an open mind about it over saying no its not true. From what were finding out things change over time.

Look at the pope, the pope not too long ago said that beliving in Aliens is not a sin. WHOA??? What? So beliving in GOD was a sin to begin with? I mean after all the bible says GOD created the earth so god couldnt have been born on this planet so he is an "alien" in all respects. Then if he is a energy based life form with no physical body than he is even more so an alien than to begin with. But one has to wonder why did the pope have to make a statement like that when the common religious belief is that humans and our planet was created by basically an alien.

What about Sitchins theory, its basically the same Annunaki are alien beings that created humans through genetic engineering. Either way you cut it there are stories of us being created by aliens and people are failing to see that even though their religious.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Scndsin
Hey, at least his astronomy is spot on. The gas giants are failed stars & most stars systems are binary.
actually, the gas giants are 'rudys'.

they never made it in the first place.

the largest, jupiter, if it lit, does not have enuf mass (by far) to keep it from blowing apart (it is after all a thermonuclear reaction). therefore jupiter would be in days converted into the 'jupiterian nebula'. the other less massive planets even more so.

please think of a brown dwarf as a smoldering couch fire. pretty hot. but not very luminous.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by quaddriver
actually, the gas giants are 'rudys'.

they never made it in the first place.

please think of a brown dwarf as a smoldering couch fire. pretty hot. but not very luminous.


Those freaking aliens have GOT to quit smoking!

 
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 07:22 AM
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My grandad had a great word to describe this kind of stuff:

"phooooey!"

I'll go sweep out the 60's nuclear survival bunker in my back yard and move all my unused Y2K survival supplies into it.
That should take care of things, since I obviously won't be one of the "chosen" ones to be spirited off to the secret underground installations that all the major world governments are building.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by quaddriver
actually, the gas giants are 'rudys'.

they never made it in the first place.

the largest, jupiter, if it lit, does not have enuf mass (by far) to keep it from blowing apart (it is after all a thermonuclear reaction). therefore jupiter would be in days converted into the 'jupiterian nebula'. the other less massive planets even more so.

please think of a brown dwarf as a smoldering couch fire. pretty hot. but not very luminous.
How do we know they never made it to a brown dwarf star to begin with?

After all these gas giants have very complex atmospheres. Not to mention Jupiter is still putting off some form of radiation which is a good sign towards a cooled brown dwarf.

Besides that though a regular star requires so much mass before it will light off. A brown dwarf doesnt require the same amount because as you said in your example its really a smoldering fire. Its not putting out light but its putting out heat. There is not thermonuclear reaction taking place since the internal pressures are not high enough for it to cause the same fusion basically.

Brown dwarfs has enough mass to fuse deuterium and also lithium.

This is what I posted on the subject in another forum on a post I started about Binary and multiple star solar systems.

"The mass of the protostar is less than about 0.08 solar mass, normal hydrogen thermonuclear fusion reactions will not ignite in the core. Gravitational contraction does not heat the small protostar very effectively, and before the temperature in the core can increase enough to trigger fusion, the density reaches the point where electrons become closely packed enough to create quantum electron degeneracy pressure."
 
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 08:05 AM
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That should take care of things, since I obviously won't be one of the "chosen" ones to be spirited off to the secret underground installations that all the major world governments are building.
How do YOU know?

Maybe they just haven't told you yet....
 
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