Looking at my folder copy of the block id codes this is what I see (disclaimer I am not including the Ford cylinder block number. On yours you will see this C2AE 6015 C which below would be C2AE-C)

C1AE-R = 292 cu. in. V8 1961 Cars and Trucks

C2AE-C = 292 cu. in. V8 1962 Cars / 62-64 Trucks.

But probem is sometimes they over lap like the code on my 56 Fairlane`s engine.

ECZ 6015 A

The ECZ-A code comes back as a 292 - 312 cu. in. V8. Only way to tell them apart is if you have EBU main caps its a 292 and if you have ECZ main caps its a 312. Or you can check the crank flange which I cant do currently with three flat tires.

But I do have to say all blocks atleast I should say all Y-Blocks have 6015 in the id code. 6015 is just the ford part number for a cylinder block. Same as 6090 will be found on all Y-Block heads some wheres cause its just the part number for cylinder heads.

Other than that one case the block ID number points out the displacement of the engine as well as where it was made at aong with the year or years.

Some example are below.

EBV = 239 cu. in. V8 - 1955 Pickup, Small cam bearings
EBY = 256 cu. in. V8 - 1954 Mercury
ECG = 272 cu. in. 8 - 1955-57 cars and trucks
EDB-E = 292 cu. in. V8 - 1958-59 cars and trucks to April 59 / 312 in Mercury

 

My question to NumberDumby was an attempt at a polite/rhetorical question. There isnt such a thing as a 312 C2AE, or a 272 or 390, only 292. This was in a response to a statement that an engine displacement could never be determined by engine casting. I understand he was likely referring to another engine family.

 

Oh I know, I was just making a post agreeing with you but your both right though because you can really trust the block id code all the time. There are overlaps in some cases. After all the 292 and 312 blocks are the same, just like the truck and car blocks are the same. Only thing is they used steel cranks. Not to mention they usedthe C1AE or C2AE car blocks.

 

If you havent already seen it, take a look on the y's forever site at the post "Car show nightmare". One of the guys won an award for "Best 390 in Show". Problem was his motor is a 312!

 

Good one. I took even that Engine quiz. Pretty good one though. Only got 13 of 17 right.

 

hi, your engine is 57 and later because of the wide based carb. it's out of a truck because of the exhause, it's yellow so it could be a 256 or 272, probably out of a bus. 292's were standard but they ordered the smaller engine's for better milage in buses. find a ford truck parts manual, 56-60 and 60-64 f600-f800, and you'll find a lot of parts that most people don't know about. mummert's site doesn't have any info on big truck y-blocks. i have a ECZ block with ECZ main caps, it's only a 292 out of a 63 2 ton dump truck. if your not sure about a part, check the truck manuals also, just trying to help.

 

So it's not a 272?

 

I think that intake might have been swaped out before. The block code is coming back as 1955 - 57.

I thought on mine it was all orignal but checking the codes found out the whole engine is the orignal 1956 292 but the intake manifold is coded 1960. Was done to put a motorcraft carb on over the leak prone holley that came from the factory.

His could have had the same thing done. But Mummert`s site might be wrong on that code or that might be ECO or ECQ and not ECG that I am using since I dont see anything closer than that.

 

It looked like ECQ to me. But I have the benefit of being able to look at the block but that doesn't mean I'm reading it correctly. Sometimes the definiton is easier to see on the photo itself.

 

See I couldnt helpon that cause the only reference I have is from Mummerts site and theres no ECQ. I have to say it looks like ECQ but te closest I could find though was ECG. But I dont think I have a full chart though.

 

Look next to the hole where the distributor goes into the block. It says ECG there, too.

 

Uh, if you are going to win contests with this where people care, you are going to have to find an old upright carb, the manifold that goes with it, and the oil bath air cleaner that goes on a 239. A correct oil filter would help, too. this engine doesn't match the pictures inthe 53 shop manual. Contest judges might let you slide with a 272-292-312 internally, but the low profile carb and air cleaner will be all wrong for a 53. That guy in indianaautorv.com I quoted before had all that for his 239. If you are just trying to sell the engine, post in for sale here, and on fordforum.org for cars.

 

Thats where it is up to the people. I am restoring mine but keeping the disposable oil filter.

Page 189 of the 49 - 59 ford car illustration and text catalog shows a diagram for a 1952 and newer disposal type oil filter for the 215, 223 6 cylinders and the 239,272, 292, 312 OHV Y8`s.

But I do have to say there is nothing wrong with having some modern upgrades if you want the engine to look factory orignal but be more reliable.

 

The 272 in my '57 Custom 300 has the same intake with Ford carb on it. The wide 4 bolt two barrel.

Your 272 is a '57 as I learned the hard way that this is a 1 year carb. It was not called a Motorcraft carb, it was a Ford.

On the carbs body it should even have ECG stamped on it.

If you're thinking of using that engine, scrap the carb and get a carb spacer and run a spreadbore holley or edelbrock 2 barrel. Trying to find parts for that carb is a nightmare. It is similar to the Motorcraft 2 barrels used for years, and if you go in and get a rebuild kit for it, you'll get a Motorcraft rebuild kit, and it'll show the differences in the '57 but it won't include all the parts (pump diaphram stopped my rebuild). Then you can go and try and track down the individual parts but it's just a headache.

 

why not just find a merc. with a holly 2bbl.