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I have something similar to the Draw-Tite with the flip up ball. I don't know the name brand bc I didn't install it. My buddy has a Reese that is about identical to it.
We ran B&W's at work and they keep installing them. It makes me a little nervous that the ball could rust up or get sand in there and not come out after winter. With mine I just hit it with a little grease and freed it up yesterday. Beutiful now. One finger operation. With that said I have never actually flipped a B&W, they may work flawlessly 100% of the time.
A D4 weighs in at 17,900 pounds. I might attempt it with a DRW F350, but not an F250.
By the way: Got your CDL? You've got probably 7,000 pounds of truck. Plus 17,900 pounds of dozer plus at least 2,000 of trailer so you're over your 26,001 limit.
I sure wouldn't want to be in an F250 with 19,000 pounds behind me if I had my trailer brakes go out for any reason.
Note to OP: The following rant isn't directed at you specifically
I see people with F350s and smaller towing loads I wouldn't touch with anything smaller than an F650 or larger truck. Preferably with air brakes.
Perfect example: I belong to a set of heavy equipment forums. There is a guy from Arizona who had a Case 450CT. He traded it in on a CAT 297C. He put up pictures of the Case before he traded it in and pictures of the CAT once he had it home. It was cool. Except for the fact that he was towing it behind an F150!! To give you an idea of how overloaded he was. A 450CT or 297C weighs in at somewhere in the ballpark of 12,000 pounds. Behind an F150.
He says "Well I don't move it that much and the trailer has brakes."
I've got news for everyone who is overloaded constantly: IT ONLY TAKES ONE TIME TO CAUSE A FATAL INCIDENT. Note I said incident instead of accident. An accident was when it was an unpredictable occurrence. If you're loaded up way beyond what you should be you know there is a much greater risk. Hence incident.
Just because you've gotten away with it before doesn't mean that it's ok. Just because your truck can get it moving doesn't mean it can stop it.
I see guys running around with no chains on machines when they are moving them. They get away with it. But it doesn't make it safe.
Get the proper truck for the job. If you're ever in an accident and you're overloaded that way your insurance company will disown you and you'll get your pants sued off. Just don't do it.
well i wasn't actually gonna get a cheap made hitch i wanted a good one but i was wondering where i could get one for a cheaper price. i dont wanna half a** it cause i wanna be able to pull the bend out of a creek and dont want my hitch to be the weak point on the truck if ya know what i mean.
Ahhh, I see. You're looking for a good price. These people here were pretty nice and my hitch was here in 2 days:
But sure, if you don't care about a flush mount one and don't want to spend a lot you can get one of those plate mounts that just bolt through the top of the bed and in to the frame. You'll just have the big mess there all the time though. Very inexpensive and just as strong.
ok sounds good a appreciate all this helpful advice yall are giving me on this stuff im a little new with hauling loads this big. i have pulled bumper pulls all my life and can back a trailer anywhere you want it but i have never had a truck till this year that i could put a gooseneck on or pull a load that size.
I sure wouldn't want to be in an F250 with 19,000 pounds behind me if I had my trailer brakes go out for any reason.
My experience is 20k behind my pickup is not a bad load. I have been without trailer brakes with it and believe it or not it wasnt as bad as I had imagined. Not something I would do intentionally, but as long as you are aware you have lost your trailer brakes prior to needing them you can adjust to the situation.
It is easy to say get a big truck, but real world is a guy has a pickup that with the proper trailer will handle the load. Seems like everyone that has never hauled more than a skid behind there pickup freaks out when anyone would dare haul more! The OP was wanting info on a hitch. If you wouldnt haul that much your pickup doesnt mean others of us do it on a fairly regular basis.
My experience is 20k behind my pickup is not a bad load. I have been without trailer brakes with it and believe it or not it wasnt as bad as I had imagined. Not something I would do intentionally, but as long as you are aware you have lost your trailer brakes prior to needing them you can adjust to the situation.
It is easy to say get a big truck, but real world is a guy has a pickup that with the proper trailer will handle the load. Seems like everyone that has never hauled more than a skid behind there pickup freaks out when anyone would dare haul more! The OP was wanting info on a hitch. If you wouldnt haul that much your pickup doesnt mean others of us do it on a fairly regular basis.
Either way he's going to need a class A CDL if he doesn't have one already.
But sure, if you don't care about a flush mount one and don't want to spend a lot you can get one of those plate mounts that just bolt through the top of the bed and in to the frame. You'll just have the big mess there all the time though. Very inexpensive and just as strong.
i bought my B&W hitch from these folks. Great service. Got it in about two days too. Highly recommended. I had shopped around locally, and every place wanted between 350 to 400 for the hitch and at least 150-200 for install. I said f that, I paid 330 with shipping and put in myself in about an hour. And it only took that long because i decided not to break out the air tools. Heaviest I've towed is probably in the 15k range. My bro-in-law has a 25 ft tri-axle that I'm not sure how much it weighs, but I'd guess at least 6000lbs and wiith a T300 (about 9K) on it. It is amazing how much the GN makes the load feel lighter. That same T300 on my tag along hudson trailer felt A LOT heavier. I didn't break and speed records, but on relatively flat ground, I barely noticed the trailer back there (stopping and accelerating aside)
man i hate them speed wobbles....you cant steer fast enough to keep up and the last thing you want to do is try to slow it down using the brakes like he did...
i always heard you can stomp the gas to help straighten it out with my dads truck our cattle trailer would sway but with my PSD it does very little if at all now
speed is what got you there to begin with..thats why there called speed wobble...the best thing to do is let off the go peddle and hold on till it stops...any thing else will get you where that guy is...