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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 10:20 PM
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Talking with a 30+ year school bus mechanic the other day. He told me that the 7.3 is an International engine that Ford made some mods to. He claims the #7 injector is different than the others as a noise reduction method, and that the 7.3's in his school buses have an extra 60 HP because they don't have the one different injector. Is he full of it, or is there some truth to it?
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 10:30 PM
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I believe its the # 8 injector but the hp thing is bs.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 10:32 PM
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One different injector = 60HP???? Wow, there's a mod we can use.


OK just messin' with ya!!!!

I think your buddy is pulling your leg.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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The engine is made by international it is the #8 injector that is different. If the school buses had an extra 60hp everyone on FTE would be riding the short bus .
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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Well at least he knew a little of what he was saying. I loved the short bus comment, good one!
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 10:41 PM
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Oh yes, the 7.3 it is an IH engine and the mods that are performed on it by Ford include mostly emission requirements and a few noise reduction additions. I'm sure someone can chime in with a better breakdown of more differences.
 
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Old Mar 6, 2009 | 10:44 PM
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If you loose 60 hp in one hole from a different injector he is saying you have atleast 60 hp per hole. The 480 hp for all 8 holes. Can I get one
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 02:22 AM
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Awesome...I always wondered where they got these new injectors from. If I wouldve known this a few years ago I couldve gotten yall tons of bus injectors! lol They would sell at a premium. 60hp my azz
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 03:12 AM
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the IH school bus and there medium duty trucks have what IH calls a high torque T444E (7.3) in them..they use a differnt injector all together..they also run a bigger non waste gated turbo...thats why they have higher HP and TQ..ford made there changes to the T444E and called it the 7.3 power stoke..



AC injectors are found in the high torque version of the T444E and do not come in any Powerstrokes. They have the same internals as the AB injectors with the exception of the single shot plunger and barrel. However due to them being single shot injectors they flow 160cc. This is due to the way the split shots work. They have a small passage that opens, much like a port in a two stroke engine, that are uncovered that bypass the injection pressure out the side of the barrel instead of out the end through the nozzle. Because of this pause a portion of the travel of the plunger does nothing for injecting fuel so a split shot injects less fuel for the same amount of travel as a single shot.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 03:40 AM
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So the guy is right in a way? Has anybody gone this route?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 03:45 AM
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So the guy is right in a way? Has anybody gone this route?

a lot of us have..thats what single shot injectors are..click on the full force link in my sig...i have the stage 2's ..160cc with moded nozzles....some guy's run the non waste gated van turbo...but to run SS injectors you need custom tuning..
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 06:51 AM
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Curious, why would Ford want to use the split shots over the single shots then?
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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Supposedly a "cleaner burn". A pilot shot is injected which gets the combustion started, then the rest of the fuel follows in the way Ron described. I would rather have more power & better mileage over a "cleaner burn", but that's what the tree huggin' fruits of the world have done for us.
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 08:38 AM
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The SS's use what is called pilot injection to meet specific emissions standards, and I believe they are a bit quieter.

EDIT: Beat to the punch
 
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Old Mar 7, 2009 | 08:51 AM
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There were changes and updates to the T444E International engine over the years. We have 7 of them from 1996 to 2001 in school buses, ours are 190 to 210 horsepower.
International also went to split shot injectors in the later 90s and our 2001 has a wastegated turbo
 
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