427 i.d.
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Send me your email address and I will send you a picture of our 427, so you will know what to look for. If it does not have the three cross bolts, it is not a 427. 427's have cross bolted mains, so you will see three bolts on the bottom of the block close to the oil pan, on both sides.
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Send me your email address and I will send you a picture of our 427, so you will know what to look for. If it does not have the three cross bolts, it is not a 427. 427's have cross bolted mains, so you will see three bolts on the bottom of the block close to the oil pan, on both sides.
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Some marine blocks and industrial blocks are not cross bolted, but my hydraulic cammed 427 block was cross bolted and was a side oiler. I had one in a 1969 cougar. 390 hp. I bought the car used, so it might have been added by the dealer, because some say that they stopped the 427 engine in the Cougar in 1968. But mine was a 427 hydraulic cammed, cross bolt, side oiler. If it is not cross bolted, it probably is not a 427.
Bear is right,,, never say never.
393Stroker,,, I sent you two pictures, let me know if you received them.
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Yep Buyer always beware!! Even if it does have the crossbolted block, it still might not be a 427 ? Its maybe a 406 also !! Cant ever be for sure with an FE, unless you ID the crank stroke and bore...But you can get in the ballpark!
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IMHO The $1000.00 price tag should be a be a huge factor. It will follow the 352/360 being 390s, "thats what they told me when I bought it" rule.
I can't imagine a car with an authentic 427 in it being on the market for less than $5000.00 and closer to 10.
A real 427 will bring full grown men to their knees like new born babies do to wimmins. The die hards will scope it, stroke it, look up it's tail pipe hole while holding a warm & fuzzy feeling up their leg.
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I can't imagine a car with an authentic 427 in it being on the market for less than $5000.00 and closer to 10.
A real 427 will bring full grown men to their knees like new born babies do to wimmins. The die hards will scope it, stroke it, look up it's tail pipe hole while holding a warm & fuzzy feeling up their leg.
John
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IMHO The $1000.00 price tag should be a be a huge factor. It will follow the 352/360 being 390s, "thats what they told me when I bought it" rule.
I can't imagine a car with an authentic 427 in it being on the market for less than $5000.00 and closer to 10.
A real 427 will bring full grown men to their knees like new born babies do to wimmins. The die hards will scope it, stroke it, look up it's tail pipe hole while holding a warm & fuzzy feeling up their leg.
John
I can't imagine a car with an authentic 427 in it being on the market for less than $5000.00 and closer to 10.
A real 427 will bring full grown men to their knees like new born babies do to wimmins. The die hards will scope it, stroke it, look up it's tail pipe hole while holding a warm & fuzzy feeling up their leg.
John
This is a family sight for christ's sake.. LOLSimple: Have him pull the heads so you can measure the bore & stroke. Then explain how the car is only worth 500.00 to you with the engine all apart like this. So you'd be willing to give him 150.00 to put it back together.
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I got the pictures maxtor, thanks. I just called the guy and now he`s not sure what motor is in it,but he said he would check for the cross bolted mains and i`ll call him back Saturday. Its on craigs list in San Antonio Tx under `1954 Pakard ,Feb. 17th
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You are half right Bear;
Some marine blocks and industrial blocks are not cross bolted, but my hydraulic cammed 427 block was cross bolted and was a side oiler. I had one in a 1969 cougar. 390 hp. I bought the car used, so it might have been added by the dealer, because some say that they stopped the 427 engine in the Cougar in 1968. But mine was a 427 hydraulic cammed, cross bolt, side oiler. If it is not cross bolted, it probably is not a 427.
Bear is right,,, never say never.
393Stroker,,, I sent you two pictures, let me know if you received them.
Some marine blocks and industrial blocks are not cross bolted, but my hydraulic cammed 427 block was cross bolted and was a side oiler. I had one in a 1969 cougar. 390 hp. I bought the car used, so it might have been added by the dealer, because some say that they stopped the 427 engine in the Cougar in 1968. But mine was a 427 hydraulic cammed, cross bolt, side oiler. If it is not cross bolted, it probably is not a 427.
Bear is right,,, never say never.
393Stroker,,, I sent you two pictures, let me know if you received them.
The GTE Cougar was indeed that last production car with a 427 in '68, but many service blocks were produced after that, and would be hydro-capable.
Then to throw a monkey wrench in, you might find a block that has had the cross-bolt caps retrofitted, used to be pretty popular on 428's and such before the aftermarket blocks came out, used to find cap sets from grenaded 427's at swap meets for $50
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Only 30,965 1954 Packards and Packard Clippers were made, making them one of the rarest years, and are highly sought after by Packard collectors.
I sold an all original '54 convertible 20 years ago for 15 grand. The new owner repainted the car, installed a new top, re-sold it a year later for 25 grand.
Completely restored, a car like this today will bring 100 grand EZ.
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I'm calling BS on this so-called 427, because a 1954 PACKARD is easily worth 3 to 5 grand as a parts car with its original Straight 8, even if the engine is toast, and the body is rusty.
Only 30,965 1954 Packards and Packard Clippers were made, making them one of the rarest years, and are highly sought after by Packard collectors.
I sold an all original '54 convertible 20 years ago for 15 grand. The new owner repainted the car, installed a new top, re-sold it a year later for 25 grand.
Completely restored, a car like this today will bring 100 grand EZ.
Only 30,965 1954 Packards and Packard Clippers were made, making them one of the rarest years, and are highly sought after by Packard collectors.
I sold an all original '54 convertible 20 years ago for 15 grand. The new owner repainted the car, installed a new top, re-sold it a year later for 25 grand.
Completely restored, a car like this today will bring 100 grand EZ.
