Notices

E4OD Compatibility

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 06:27 PM
  #16  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
You also need to change the output shaft. That involves a complete teardown, which it looks like you have to do anyway.
I didn't pay much for the small block E4OD tranny, and I might be able to sell the old case.

If I tear it down and install HD parts will it be as good as a factory E4OD for a 460?

What parts should I replace?

I ordered a rebuild manual for a E4OD today.
 
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2009 | 10:01 PM
  #17  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,730
Likes: 2,657
From: SE Florida
Yes, installing the right parts will make it a 460 trans. I don't know which ones are different, I just know that there are several differences and the small block parts are not as strong.
 
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 01:40 PM
  #18  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
Mark,

I'm going to look at an '83 F100? 2WD with a 302 and a bad tranny. I asssume that an '83 will be a carb motor.
What tranny should I expect? AOD, AODE, or C4?

Will my small block E4OD tranny mate to a carb small block?

I plan to try to build a controller for the E4OD, and use this truck as a test bed.
 
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 03:22 PM
  #19  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,730
Likes: 2,657
From: SE Florida
It could be an AOD or a C6. The AODE started in 1992.

The small block E4OD will bolt to the engine.
 
Reply
Old Mar 4, 2009 | 09:03 PM
  #20  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
It could be an AOD or a C6. The AODE started in 1992.

The small block E4OD will bolt to the engine.
Good, that's what I thought. If this works out, I should be able to sell this truck and get enough to buy a rebuilt E4OD to mate to my 408. I'll just have to duplicate my controller.
 
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2009 | 06:40 PM
  #21  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
Originally Posted by danlee
Mark,

I'm going to look at an '83 F100? 2WD with a 302 and a bad tranny. I asssume that an '83 will be a carb motor.
What tranny should I expect? AOD, AODE, or C4?

Will my small block E4OD tranny mate to a carb small block?

I plan to try to build a controller for the E4OD, and use this truck as a test bed.
I looked at that '83 F100 today. It's not pretty, but it's cheap. The 302 purrs like a kitten. It has an AOD. The owner says the OD slips when you engage it. It runs in Drive OK.

What will cause an AOD to slip in OD?
 
Reply
Old Mar 6, 2009 | 10:00 PM
  #22  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,730
Likes: 2,657
From: SE Florida
A worn out OD band is a likely suspect.
 
Reply
Old Mar 10, 2009 | 07:29 PM
  #23  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
I bought the '83 F100 with the 302 and bad AOD. I'll pick up my small block E4OD on Thursday.

I have a question about the drive shaft. Since the E4OD tranny is so much longer, I will need a shorter drive shaft.

Can I use a drive shaft from a later model RWD F100/F150 that has an E4OD tranny? What year/Model?

Is there any issues with torque converter from the E4OD and the 302 carb motor?

Can I operate the E4OD in any gear, if there is no controller connected?

I got my E4OD manual today. Unfortunatly it's a service manual, and I need Engineering Design information. However there is some useful information in it.

The service cable defines:
Solenoid 1 as White to Black leads.
Solenoid 2 as Red to Black leads.
Transmission Oil Temperature is the Yellow leads.
Solenoid 3 Converter Clutch is Green to Black leads.
Solenoid 4 Coast Clutch is Blue to Black leads.
The Orange leads are the Electronic Pressure Control.

What is the Line Pressure Tap? Is there a pressure sensor?
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-1

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-6

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-8

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 08:07 AM
  #24  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,730
Likes: 2,657
From: SE Florida
Originally Posted by danlee
Can I operate the E4OD in any gear, if there is no controller connected?
With no controller it will operate in 1st gear when the shifter is in 1, second when the shifter is in 2, fourth when the shifter is in D, and reverese in R.

Originally Posted by danlee
What is the Line Pressure Tap? Is there a pressure sensor?
The line pressure tap is a 1/8" NPT dryseal threaded boss on the driver's side of the transmission. It is connected to line pressure. There is a plug in that tap from the factory. A service tech would remove the plug and install a gauge to diagnose transmission problems. There is no pressure sensor anywhere on the trans.
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 06:39 PM
  #25  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
With no controller it will operate in 1st gear when the shifter is in 1, second when the shifter is in 2, fourth when the shifter is in D, and reverese in R.
By fourth gear you mean it will go into OD when placed in drive?

That's good that it will operate without a controller. I will be able to move it around after I swap trannys.

Can you suggest a suitable donor for the driveshaft?
 
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2009 | 09:43 PM
  #26  
Mark Kovalsky's Avatar
Mark Kovalsky
Frmr Ford Trans Engr
25 Year Member
Liked
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 3
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 24,730
Likes: 2,657
From: SE Florida
Yes, fourth gear is overdrive.

No, I don't know what driveshaft will fit.
 
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2009 | 12:01 AM
  #27  
TripXAnarchy99's Avatar
TripXAnarchy99
New User
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Not to post too far off topic, but its better than starting a new thread for a simple question. My E4OD trans went bad in my 5.8L 4x4, I was told by a friend that the C6 will bolt directly up and is a much better trans than the E4OD? Anyone try this or know anything about it. Thanks alot... My search for the E4OD trans has extended over 6 months now and I'm getting desperate and looking for alternatives. Thanks again
 
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2009 | 12:34 AM
  #28  
aurgathor's Avatar
aurgathor
Cargo Master
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,899
Likes: 2
From: Lynnwood, WA
Is the C6 better than the E4OD? It depends on what you're after, but there are reasons why the E4OD replaced the C6.
 
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2009 | 05:19 AM
  #29  
danlee's Avatar
danlee
Thread Starter
|
Postmaster
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 4,270
Likes: 5
From: Delaware
A C6 is a 3 speed transmission, while an E4OD is a 4 speed. The extra gear is an overdrive gear and helps gas mileage while cruising. The E4OD was developed to replace the C6 and inherited it's reliability.
 
Reply
Old Mar 19, 2009 | 10:51 AM
  #30  
TripXAnarchy99's Avatar
TripXAnarchy99
New User
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 16
Likes: 0
Alright thanks for the quick replies, hopefully i'll find a trans soon... its not the same driving the suv inplace of the truck...
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:24 PM.

story-0
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-3
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-5
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-7
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-8
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-9
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE