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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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Warped rotors

Been reading a lot about the shake, bump steering issue " or what ever ya wanna call it"

the other day I noticed while in reverse and foot lightly on brake pedal I hear a little noise like every time the wheel goes to that spot.

wondering how do you tell if the rotors are warped ?


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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 06:01 PM
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They don't really warp like wave washer, it's more of one spot gets hardened and stays slightly thicker and heavier than the rest.

The test for true (I can't think of the real term), would be to put a dial indicator at a fixed distance and let it measure the pad surface. If it fluctuates, then your out of true. Most people just try to feel it through the brake pedal, if the pedal vibrates while stopping there is something forcing the caliper back in at certain spots.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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I have noticed mine doing the shudder when braking I am going to replace the rotors and pads in the next month I bought my SD in 05 havent changed any brakes and I don't think they have been done since factory
 
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ReAX
They don't really warp like wave washer, it's more of one spot gets hardened and stays slightly thicker and heavier than the rest.

The test for true (I can't think of the real term), would be to put a dial indicator at a fixed distance and let it measure the pad surface. If it fluctuates, then your out of true. Most people just try to feel it through the brake pedal, if the pedal vibrates while stopping there is something forcing the caliper back in at certain spots.
Parallel variation is what it's usually called. This is the main cause for a vibration while braking. Usually it is felt the faster you are going, and there is no real noise, but more a pulsation in the pedal. If you are hearing a noise at low speed I would try looking elsewhere while you have the wheel off.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 08:01 PM
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The rotors (especially the front rotors) generate a lot of heat to stop these nearly 4 ton monsters, Towing adds to the braking load, especially if your trailer brakes are marginal or not adjusted properly. Once overheated, it doesn't take much to cause the rotors to cool unevenly and warp a little.

Some brake shops will turn down the rotor to make the surfaces parallel, but I shy away from that based on the reasoning that if the rotor warped when it was X thick, X minus 40 thousands of an inch will warp a little easier next time.
 
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Old Feb 22, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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Parallel variation is what it's usually called. This is the main cause for a vibration while braking. Usually it is felt the faster you are going, and there is no real noise, but more a pulsation in the pedal. If you are hearing a noise at low speed I would try looking elsewhere while you have the wheel off.
There was another term too. I remember reading it in some article about really high precision bullet reloading. It was something with the neck and rim being perfectly round and level in relationship to the center of the case. I thought about brake rotors as I was reading that part, but the term didn't stick.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by MassSupra
Parallel variation is what it's usually called. This is the main cause for a vibration while braking. Usually it is felt the faster you are going, and there is no real noise, but more a pulsation in the pedal. If you are hearing a noise at low speed I would try looking elsewhere while you have the wheel off.

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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 06:14 AM
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If you get new rotors try to get American made, I got Raybestos from Pep Boys, they were made in Chicago at the time for my E250. Was back to Ford every 5,000 miles when under warranty for bad rotors. Going on over 60,000 miles now with these, never turned, still like brand new, no weeble, wobble, nice and smooth.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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Explain better? Rotors don't actually warp, they become uneven side to side.

Originally Posted by bohiaa
the other day I noticed while in reverse and foot lightly on brake pedal I hear a little noise like every time the wheel goes to that spot.

wondering how do you tell if the rotors are warped ?


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"Warped" rotors is not causing a noise. Look elsewhere.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ReAX
...The test for true (I can't think of the real term...)
Are you thinking of run-out?

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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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use a dial caliper to check rotor worpage and you said you were going in reverse when you noticed it ? And before you have them turned if that is what you find ,find the specs for the rotors before yopu waste money.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 09:54 AM
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I have found that one of the major causes of warped- pulsating rotors on a 4 wheel disk brake system is......> setting the 'emergency brake' with too much force while the rotors are HOT.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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I have found that one of the major causes of warped- pulsating rotors on a 4 wheel disk brake system is......> setting the 'emergency brake' with too much force while the rotors are HOT.
But the emergency brake is a separate drum brake inside the rear rotor.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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But the emergency brake is a separate drum brake inside the rear rotor.
The rear rotor and drum are one machined piece. Applying and leaving excess pressure on the drum when its hot will warp the rotor.

GM and Dodge have TSB's regarding this... (applying Ebrake when hot)
 
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Old Feb 23, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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Explain better? Rotors don't actually warp, they become uneven side to side.



"Warped" rotors is not causing a noise. Look elsewhere.

the post origional post was....Maybe explaned diffrently

while in Reverse with foot slightly on brake I hear a noise comming from brake area. it seems to only be persent while braking.
soundl like pads rubbing MORE in one area than another. Made me think of the ole worped rotors issue.

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