1999 to 2016 Super Duty 1999 to 2016 Ford F250, F350, F450 and F550 Super Duty with diesel V8 and gas V8 and V10 engines
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

blew second plug same hole

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 02-17-2009, 08:55 PM
fomoco32's Avatar
fomoco32
fomoco32 is offline
Freshman User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: ohio
Posts: 31
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Red face blew second plug same hole

I recently replaced my beloved 91 f 350. She had 350,000 on her 5.8l and was still going strong. Body and ele. system was getting tired. Replaced her with 2000 Ex. 6.8l. Though I got a good deal 4500. out the door with 121012 on the clock. All was well til tuneup time. After tuneup started blowing plugs. Never heard of that happening. Started doing my homework and found this to be a common problem. Seems like an easy fix though, tap the hole and use a save-a- tread insert. I have done this to 2 holes 15 min. job. Blew plug num. 3 now comes the bad news. Previous owner must have this happen as well and tried to repair using wrong size insert. The treads in the plug hole are all bugged up and the right insert goes round and round. Since the temp here hasn't been above 30 since Dec. I used j.b. weld as tread locker and 2 weeks latter, so far so good. My question is does anyone know if you can go double oversize on the insert. Also if I have to replace the head can you use the 3v head on a 2v block as I've heard the 3v heads are almost garrentied not to blow plugs.
 
  #2  
Old 02-18-2009, 08:12 AM
vettdvr's Avatar
vettdvr
vettdvr is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,720
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Ok you have a problem. I have seen (don't know if this is possible on yours) a pipe nipple cut to fit and taper threaded into a cylinder head. Then the pipe internals were cut to fit the spark plug. Short of something drastic like this I think a machine shop is your only choice or replacement head. Best of luck on this very difficult problem
 
  #3  
Old 02-18-2009, 05:44 PM
shorebird's Avatar
shorebird
shorebird is offline
Hotshot
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Long Beach, Ms.
Posts: 11,537
Received 21 Likes on 21 Posts
Stop and contact Blownoutsparkplug.com
 
  #4  
Old 02-18-2009, 05:58 PM
vettdvr's Avatar
vettdvr
vettdvr is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,720
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Originally Posted by shorebird
Stop and contact Blownoutsparkplug.com

This is interesting. It is very similar to the taper pipe nipple end that I have seen used on a previous engine. The taper has better gripping force than the straight thread replacement. When I covered the pipe nipple this was to form the taper thread section. Then it would have to be internally threaded to match the plug. What was on the site was almost identical to the pipe nipple repair however more professionally done as we didn't have all the machine tools.
 
  #5  
Old 02-18-2009, 08:45 PM
high ho silver's Avatar
high ho silver
high ho silver is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Georgia
Posts: 1,342
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by fomoco32
I recently replaced my beloved 91 f 350. She had 350,000 on her 5.8l and was still going strong. Body and ele. system was getting tired. Replaced her with 2000 Ex. 6.8l. Though I got a good deal 4500. out the door with 121012 on the clock. All was well til tuneup time. After tuneup started blowing plugs. Never heard of that happening. Started doing my homework and found this to be a common problem. Seems like an easy fix though, tap the hole and use a save-a- tread insert. I have done this to 2 holes 15 min. job. Blew plug num. 3 now comes the bad news. Previous owner must have this happen as well and tried to repair using wrong size insert. The treads in the plug hole are all bugged up and the right insert goes round and round. Since the temp here hasn't been above 30 since Dec. I used j.b. weld as tread locker and 2 weeks latter, so far so good. My question is does anyone know if you can go double oversize on the insert. Also if I have to replace the head can you use the 3v head on a 2v block as I've heard the 3v heads are almost garrentied not to blow plugs.
Whewww. Saw the thread title and thought I was gonna have to report an x-rated posting.
 
  #6  
Old 02-18-2009, 10:56 PM
99f350sd's Avatar
99f350sd
99f350sd is offline
Lead Driver

Join Date: May 2003
Location: Lyndonville, Vermont
Posts: 9,240
Received 32 Likes on 26 Posts
timesert has the repair for you.

http://www.timesert.com/html/bigsert.html
 
  #7  
Old 02-19-2009, 07:08 AM
rwilimo's Avatar
rwilimo
rwilimo is offline
Fleet Mechanic
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,336
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
X2 on the Timesert, I use them in the shop. They are not cheap, but do work very well.
 
  #8  
Old 02-19-2009, 10:24 AM
mhoefer's Avatar
mhoefer
mhoefer is offline
Postmaster
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BC Canada
Posts: 4,424
Likes: 0
Received 11 Likes on 10 Posts
The 3v head wont be an easy bolt on. What I think you want is the later 2v head with the increased thread for the plug. There was an update on the later models, pre 2005 when the 3v came in. Or you could replace the whole engine and tranny with a 3v and torqueshift :-)
 
  #9  
Old 02-19-2009, 10:47 AM
99f350sd's Avatar
99f350sd
99f350sd is offline
Lead Driver

Join Date: May 2003
Location: Lyndonville, Vermont
Posts: 9,240
Received 32 Likes on 26 Posts
No need to replace head....usually ..Tmesert will repair permanently...
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
tmehrkam
Modular V10 (6.8l)
64
07-16-2020 05:17 AM
coloradoclimber
Modular V10 (6.8l)
6
01-13-2014 07:35 AM
videopro192
1968-Present E-Series Van/Cutaway/Chassis
15
02-01-2010 03:02 PM
mwsF250
Modular V10 (6.8l)
24
12-02-2008 09:46 AM
michaelmueller
Modular V10 (6.8l)
16
02-22-2007 02:44 PM



Quick Reply: blew second plug same hole



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:19 AM.