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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 01:39 AM
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can anyone tell me if i can get an 09 f150 4x4, shortbed regular cab in the XL trim, with the 5.4 engine? i tested one with the 4.6 2valve engine and was'nt impressed by its performance. the website says only 4.6 in shortbed regcab, but another says otherwise. i love the looks of the 09, rides very well, seats are wonderful, been driving a 99 ranger, that thing will beat your guts out, terrible ride, terrible brakes, bad handling, to small for my 6ft 6in 290 pound frame. the last 150 i bought was a 97, that was one ugly truck, had it 6 months and could stand to look at it any longer. sold it and got a tacoma. looking at fords again.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 05:43 AM
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I have not sean one, nor have a tried to order one, but it is my impression that you can.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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can anyone tell me if i can get an 09 f150 4x4, shortbed regular cab in the XL trim, with the 5.4 engine? i tested one with the 4.6 2valve engine and was'nt impressed by its performance. the website says only 4.6 in shortbed regcab, but another says otherwise. i love the looks of the 09, rides very well, seats are wonderful, been driving a 99 ranger, that thing will beat your guts out, terrible ride, terrible brakes, bad handling, to small for my 6ft 6in 290 pound frame. the last 150 i bought was a 97, that was one ugly truck, had it 6 months and could stand to look at it any longer. sold it and got a tacoma. looking at fords again.
Yes, you can. It comes with the 6 speed auto. and 3.31 gears but you can upgrade to 3.55 or 3.73. Also, with this combo, you have to choose the electronic 4x4 - no manual transfer case.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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i got hold of the dealer and he said i could order it like that but it will take 10 weeks to get it. i've seen on here that the traction control is a pain, whats the deal with that ?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by jda1961
can anyone tell me if i can get an 09 f150 4x4, shortbed regular cab in the XL trim, with the 5.4 engine? i tested one with the 4.6 2valve engine and was'nt impressed by its performance. the website says only 4.6 in shortbed regcab, but another says otherwise. i love the looks of the 09, rides very well, seats are wonderful, been driving a 99 ranger, that thing will beat your guts out, terrible ride, terrible brakes, bad handling, to small for my 6ft 6in 290 pound frame. the last 150 i bought was a 97, that was one ugly truck, had it 6 months and could stand to look at it any longer. sold it and got a tacoma. looking at fords again.
Yes you can get the 5.4 in a reg cab sb but only with a 4x4 and 3.55 gears are the limit.

Ford has screwed the pooch for reg cab sb buyers limiting engine and tranny choices. The best you can do in a 4x2 the the 4.6 3v be it a stx or xlt. I think the stx has to be a 4x4 to get it. Ford has abandoned this segment because the market share is so little. Last I read it was only 12 percent of sales but that has doubled of late because of people that really need trucks are buying base models.

Other than trying to save money there is no reason to buy a 2v 4.6 because there is no gain in FE and the same can be said for the 3v 4.6. Not significant anyway. I know I would never be happy with either 4.6 expecially with the 4 speed. As much as I like Ford trucks this may well cost them my business.

Im hanging on to see if and when the 5.0 comes out if they will offer it in a xl sb 4x2. If not, I will go else where to shop. The 5.4 should be fine in a sb 4x4 but why pay all that extra money for something you dont need like in my case.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:49 AM
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i have no use for a 2 wheel drive unless its a car, i live in rual west virginia and 4x4 is the way to go unless i want to walk when it gets bad out. i know the smaller V8s are for economy reasons. but i'm not to worried about fuel economy, if it will get 15 mpg i'm happy and i can tweek it a lil with freeflowing exhaust and a coldair intake. that should give me 5 more MPGs. i had a 2002 f250 superduty with the 5.4 engine, it got 14 MPGs stock, i put gibson exhaust and an airaid air intake on it and i got 19 MPGs. i never haul anything nor pull a trailer, its just for transportation to work, but i still like the big V8s.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by jda1961
i have no use for a 2 wheel drive unless its a car, i live in rual west virginia and 4x4 is the way to go unless i want to walk when it gets bad out. i know the smaller V8s are for economy reasons. but i'm not to worried about fuel economy, if it will get 15 mpg i'm happy and i can tweek it a lil with freeflowing exhaust and a coldair intake. that should give me 5 more MPGs. i had a 2002 f250 superduty with the 5.4 engine, it got 14 MPGs stock, i put gibson exhaust and an airaid air intake on it and i got 19 MPGs. i never haul anything nor pull a trailer, its just for transportation to work, but i still like the big V8s.
Wow 5mpg from an exhuast and cold air intake. Whats the secret?? I have always gone down on mpg when fitting CAI and Exhausts.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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Wow 5mpg from an exhuast and cold air intake. Whats the secret?? I have always gone down on mpg when fitting CAI and Exhausts.
i'm just going from past experience on my 2002 f250, was getting 14 mpg stock, put intake and exhaust on and it got 19 mpg, the intake i put on was not an airaid it was another brand that i can't think of, you took off the air box, air tube and kept the stock air sensor, used their airfilter and airtube to the plinum. it really made a diffrence in power and MPGs. and taking the exhaust off and putting any free flowing exhaust on will make a diffrence.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jda1961
i'm just going from past experience on my 2002 f250, was getting 14 mpg stock, put intake and exhaust on and it got 19 mpg, the intake i put on was not an airaid it was another brand that i can't think of, you took off the air box, air tube and kept the stock air sensor, used their airfilter and airtube to the plinum. it really made a diffrence in power and MPGs. and taking the exhaust off and putting any free flowing exhaust on will make a diffrence.
Well I hate to bust your bubble but the 09s already have a free flowing straight through exhaust. You will not see any gain in mpg from a new exhaust. I also would not recommend putting a cold air intake on the new truck, in an earlier post about tunners for the 09s the preliminary testing was showing that the trucks run lean and putting a cold air intake on would create an even leaner mixture which could be very dangerous to your truck. Be sure to do your homework before putting aftermarket modifications on these new trucks.

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 12:44 PM
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Well I hate to bust your bubble but the 09s already have a free flowing straight through exhaust. You will not see any gain in mpg from a new exhaust. I also would not recommend putting a cold air intake on the new truck, in an earlier post about tunners for the 09s the preliminary testing was showing that the trucks run lean and putting a cold air intake on would create an even leaner mixture which could be very dangerous to your truck. Be sure to do your homework before putting aftermarket modifications on these new trucks.

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well we will see, like i said i'm not to worried about economy, the stock truck exhaust sure is quiet to be freeflowing like you say, but i'll take your word for it, as far as the intake as being dangerous i highly doubt that but will research before i change anything, an engine will only use the amount of air it needs, putting an aftermarket intake just gives it more volume to use, cooler air is denser that warm air. but if i'm wrong then i'll not put it on mine but if i'm right then i hate to bust your bubble.
 
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Here is the URL for the Power Hungry Performance dyno test results of the 2009 F150 engines. This is where I got the info on the cold air intake. I might have misunderstood the info. I am a fan of intake and exhaust modifications, my 97 Jeep ZJ has a Dynomax muffler and K&N intake which gave me about 3-4 mpg highway and a lot more power. The muffler on the 09 is a straight through design but it is still a long muffler which makes it quieter. I am sure there are better flowing exhaust systems available but I am not sure how much of an improvement there will be.

Here is the URL:
2009 F-150 5.4L Preliminary Dyno Results! - Power Hungry Performance Forums
 
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mstang66guy
Here is the URL for the Power Hungry Performance dyno test results of the 2009 F150 engines. This is where I got the info on the cold air intake. I might have misunderstood the info. I am a fan of intake and exhaust modifications, my 97 Jeep ZJ has a Dynomax muffler and K&N intake which gave me about 3-4 mpg highway and a lot more power. The muffler on the 09 is a straight through design but it is still a long muffler which makes it quieter. I am sure there are better flowing exhaust systems available but I am not sure how much of an improvement there will be.

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2009 F-150 5.4L Preliminary Dyno Results! - Power Hungry Performance Forums
the url as i read it is as follows, the guy that wrote it sells a custom tuning device that recalibrates the engine to his specs, but its not a stock engine after the mods he's done. so i'm taking my stock engine and adding a cold air intake to it, that guy is saying not to add one IF you add his tuner. or thats how i read it.
 
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Originally Posted by mstang66guy
Here is the URL for the Power Hungry Performance dyno test results of the 2009 F150 engines. This is where I got the info on the cold air intake. I might have misunderstood the info. I am a fan of intake and exhaust modifications, my 97 Jeep ZJ has a Dynomax muffler and K&N intake which gave me about 3-4 mpg highway and a lot more power. The muffler on the 09 is a straight through design but it is still a long muffler which makes it quieter. I am sure there are better flowing exhaust systems available but I am not sure how much of an improvement there will be.

Here is the URL:
2009 F-150 5.4L Preliminary Dyno Results! - Power Hungry Performance Forums
you need to read all of that url, the guy is asked if its a stock engine will a coldair intake harm the engine, he says as long as the mass airflow sensor is left unmolested it would be okay. i don't know if that guy is an expert or not but he seems knowledgable.
 
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I read it that the air intake could create a lean condition on a stock motor at wide open throttle runs. So as long as you arent making a lot of WOT runs you should be fine.
 
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