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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 12:18 PM
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Owners in compliance with the law should have nothing to worry about, right?
If you trust the likes of Obama and Pelosi, sure, no worries.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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I think maybe they should just limit low much ammo a person can have. For example for use against a home invasion its very easy to see that no one would ever NEED more than several rounds. Why not limit it to something fair like 20 rounds. No one can justify more except the ones who target shoot. If you target shoot ok you can buy boxes of low power rounds maked for target use only if you give an ID and the problem is solved. Anyone wanting a more than 20 regular rounds can pay a special tax .....Sounds good to me.
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Grey 250s
Yesterday, my wife suggested that we start buying a couple of boxes of shells (for every caliber we own) every payday. Just like that and completely out of the blue. We weren't even talking about guns, shooting, ammo. I dunno what got her thinking about it but... ok.
I love that gal.
Wow! I love her too! Is your wife married?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Ive got anywhere from 500 rounds minimum to about 2000+ rounds for each caliber handgun,with the exception of one lowly box of 9mm Makarov. Ive only got 100 or so rounds each of 30-06,and 30-30,but at least 500 rounds or more in .223,7.62x39,7.62x54R,8mm mauser,.308. so im reasonably well prepared. Ive also got at least 2 mags for all my semi-auto pistols,with 4 or 5 each for most.......
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JIM_C
If you trust the likes of Obama and Pelosi, sure, no worries.
I do trust Obama, or at least like many of his ideas. That's not exactly what we were talking about though. Pelosi can jump in front of a bus. This concludes the political stuff so this thread stays open.

Iggy: Nice to find someone else that stocks up on 7.62x54R. My M91/30 is a joy to shoot, but it's rare I get to due to the size (it's 5 feet long with the bayonet) and obviously, there's a very loud boom.

Other than that, I try and keep a box of .45s and a box of .38s on hand for the Rugers. I don't have any .308 for the Enfield (Indian Army surplus, rechambered from .310) and I've got more .22LRs than I know what to do with.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Ship Boy
I think maybe they should just limit low much ammo a person can have. For example for use against a home invasion its very easy to see that no one would ever NEED more than several rounds. Why not limit it to something fair like 20 rounds. No one can justify more except the ones who target shoot. If you target shoot ok you can buy boxes of low power rounds maked for target use only if you give an ID and the problem is solved. Anyone wanting a more than 20 regular rounds can pay a special tax .....Sounds good to me.
Once again,you have shown a complete lack of both common sense as well as a lack of knowledge,a dangerous combination! If a round is capable of punching paper,it could also be deadly if fired at a living target,or dont you understand how bullets work?
So,you propose a special endorsement on your ID to allow purchase of this special ammo " marked for target use only" as if that would solve anything,OR,you can pay a special tax for other ammo......Have you,Shipboy ever considered re-locating to a beautiful island paradise,blessed by warm weather and a Socialist government, a place run by a warm,friendly family who provide a wonderful standard of living for all there comrades,er,citizens?
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by iggybob44
Ive got anywhere from 500 rounds minimum to about 2000+ rounds for each caliber handgun,with the exception of one lowly box of 9mm Makarov. Ive only got 100 or so rounds each of 30-06,and 30-30,but at least 500 rounds or more in .223,7.62x39,7.62x54R,8mm mauser,.308. so im reasonably well prepared. Ive also got at least 2 mags for all my semi-auto pistols,with 4 or 5 each for most.......
That's a start!

I think the caliber that I have the least amount of ammo for is an old 7.7mm Arisaka that Dad brought home, from the war.
I've got ONE stripper clip of ammo for it.
Next up would be in .38 Special. I've probably got two (2) 50 round boxes. (I don't shoot much in the way of .38s.)
The rest. . . I've got enough to hold me over for a day or so, is all I'll say.

Pistols and magazines - I rode out one 'ban'. I can do it, again. I wasn't prepared, before. This time. . . well, it's a different story.

Fool me once. . . shame on you. Fool me twice. . . shame on me.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 01:35 PM
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The only reason ive got a bunch of .38 special is because ive recently acquired a S&W model 15,and i will be taking delivery of a Colt Diamondback in a few days.
Ive never shot a revolver well,but im hoping with mucho practice to change that,besides with Semi Autos ruling sales of both LE and ordinary folk, .38 ammo has gone up a bunch in price,while 9mm has stayed the most stable price wise.....The first handgun i ever owned was a 4" stainless Ruger security-si long since sold it!) and when i bought it,a local store in the area sold .38 reload 158 SWC's for $3.75 for a box of 50. I just wish id invested about $375.00 back then,and stuck the ammo aside!
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Virto
I do trust Obama, or at least like many of his ideas. That's not exactly what we were talking about though. Pelosi can jump in front of a bus. This concludes the political stuff so this thread stays open.
It is what we're talking about. They write and sign these idiotic gun control laws into effect. I'm NOT talking about who should or should not jump in front of a bus - although I wholeheartedly agree that Pelosi should.
As they pass more and more restrictive legislation (and see that it doesn't work), they'll throw their hands up and propose a total ban as "the only solution."
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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Obama's heritage as a man of color,includes a community that has suffered a lot because of gun violence,that is a fact that cant be readily disputed. Black on Black gun related deaths and injuries are a very real fact in many big cities in particular,so is it not difficult for those of us who wish to own guns to see how our President and the controlling party might try to initiate sweeping new gun control legislation.
Never mind that this is no solution,or that some may attempt this in the naive yet well intended belief that it will reduce crimes committed with guns,there are very well financed and backed organizations who know that gun control solves nothing,yet they will do anything within there power to restrict or even ban guns! I am not sure which category,if either that our President falls within,but i find it hard to believe that he will be a friend to the lawful gun owner.....
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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BTW,for what its worth,im working in a very part-time capacity at a local gun store,and i worked at a gun show last weekend,and i can personally state with certainty that the current Congress and Administration has stimulated this one segment of the economy! Most semi-auto pistols and rifles are on back order from the manufacturers,with a lot of uncertainty when orders will be filled,and certain calibers of ammo likewise.....
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 02:15 PM
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"SUMMARY AS OF:
1/6/2009--Introduced.
Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a state system certified under this Act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license application, issuance, and renewal requirements.

Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorney General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale system.

Prohibits: (1) transferring a firearm to any person other than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal background check system requirements, with exceptions; (2) a licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of this Act; (3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours; (4) failing to report to the Attorney General an address change within 60 days; or (5) keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm, knowingly or recklessly disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or serious bodily injury.

Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms provisions covered by this Act.

Directs the Attorney General to: (1) establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse; (2) conduct continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and (3) collect and maintain current production and sales figures of each licensed manufacturer.

Authorizes the Attorney General to certify state firearm licensing or record of sale systems."
Of these rules,only one,that deals with allowing a child to gain access to a firearm in a reckless or negligent manner is an actual step in improving gun safety,and thats why rules like this one example have broad-based support even within the gun owners community. The other rules and legislation are nothing more than another flaming hoop for lawful gun owners to jump through,and the anti-gun lobby considers every person who chooses not to buy a gun because of these additional hurdles as a victory for there warped cause........
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Virto
I do trust Obama, or at least like many of his ideas. That's not exactly what we were talking about though. Pelosi can jump in front of a bus. This concludes the political stuff so this thread stays open.

Iggy: Nice to find someone else that stocks up on 7.62x54R. My M91/30 is a joy to shoot, but it's rare I get to due to the size (it's 5 feet long with the bayonet) and obviously, there's a very loud boom.

Other than that, I try and keep a box of .45s and a box of .38s on hand for the Rugers. I don't have any .308 for the Enfield (Indian Army surplus, rechambered from .310) and I've got more .22LRs than I know what to do with.
I dont particularly trust the man,but as a resident of the state where he came to political prominence,i will concede that you may know more about him and his views than i do........My Wife's son has a couple M91/30's and ive got a Finnish M39 that was reworked by Sako,and is a very nice shooter,im just sorry i didnt buy more M39's back when they were commonly imported,i paid $60 0r $70 back in the late 80's,and i saw them at the show i worked selling for $350 or higher,would have been a nice investment!
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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My M91/30 is Russian, I forget which arms plant...it's been a very long time since I've been involved over on the Mosin-Nagant boards. I believe it's a '43 build. Now I'm doubting myself. It was imported by Aztec in the 90s, I paid 130 with the bayo, oiler, sling, pair of stripper clips and ammo pouch. I wanted to pick up a carbine, but I never got around to it. Now prices are up up UP!

Oh yhea, the 130 included enough caked on cosmoline to choke a monkey.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Here in Ca, you can still get an M91/30 thats been arsenal refinished for occasionally less than $100,and every day for $100-$150,M44 carbines run about $25-50 more,roughly!
 
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