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Ya know, it's funny. The NRA is a great lobby for our Second Amendment rights. But there are no other lobby's trying to protect the rest of our constitution. As Politicians in the last 30 years are slowly eroding ALL of our freedoms. By over governing everything. It's as if they've stupefied every single American. The mainstream cannot even take a dump, without regulations.
Last edited by fonefiddy; Feb 16, 2009 at 06:39 PM.
Reason: Can't get the constitution straight.
I think maybe they should just limit low much ammo a person can have. For example for use against a home invasion its very easy to see that no one would ever NEED more than several rounds. Why not limit it to something fair like 20 rounds. No one can justify more except the ones who target shoot. If you target shoot ok you can buy boxes of low power rounds maked for target use only if you give an ID and the problem is solved. Anyone wanting a more than 20 regular rounds can pay a special tax .....Sounds good to me.
I think you better get off the crack pipe!, are you serious? or is this just another trolling expedition? A limit on how ammo you can have?.....Maybe there should be a limit on how much food you can have in your house or, how much electricity you can use!....Just the kind of crap some politicians bent on more control over the people would love!............This is one of your best efforts to date!, excuse me while I, LMFAO!!!
"How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual... as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded, controlled, supervised, and taken care of."
-- Former Rep. Suzanna Gratia Hupp (TX)
I think maybe they should just limit low much ammo a person can have. For example for use against a home invasion its very easy to see that no one would ever NEED more than several rounds. Why not limit it to something fair like 20 rounds. No one can justify more except the ones who target shoot. If you target shoot ok you can buy boxes of low power rounds maked for target use only if you give an ID and the problem is solved. Anyone wanting a more than 20 regular rounds can pay a special tax .....Sounds good to me.
ShipBoy,you have accused me and others here of name calling when you make your typical irrational posts,and for the most part i try to avoid actually taking the low road by calling names......In your special case i may make an exception. Perhaps you have heard the terms imbecile,moron,or cretin,and quite possibly when you have heard those words they were directed at you? Are so so devoid of an actual life that you have nothing better to do than post some of the most consistently poorly thought out garbage,or has a court of law adjudicated you as mentally defective?
ShipBoy,you have accused me and others here of name calling when you make your typical irrational posts,and for the most part i try to avoid actually taking the low road by calling names......In your special case i may make an exception. Perhaps you have heard the terms imbecile,moron,or cretin,and quite possibly when you have heard those words they were directed at you? Are so so devoid of an actual life that you have nothing better to do than post some of the most consistently poorly thought out garbage,or has a court of law adjudicated you as mentally defective?
He didnt take the advise from a couple days ago, and is still out to ruin perfectly good threads with his asinine comments. And this thread had real and important content...................Maybe it can get back on track, without the trolling from certain individuals.........BTW, Iggy. That was a pretty good assessment!
Yesterday, my wife suggested that we start buying a couple of boxes of shells (for every caliber we own) every payday. Just like that and completely out of the blue. We weren't even talking about guns, shooting, ammo. I dunno what got her thinking about it but... ok.
I love that gal.
I also have been buying a box or two of ammo for each of my guns every paycheck
I am well over 100 rounds for the .30-06, .40s&W, .22.
I need more 12g
i urge all citizens to call, write, visit your elected officials and voice your thoughts on the 2nd. Threaten to start the ball rolling to get them out of office if it needs be.
But be polite and to the point.
I swear the senators and congressmen from MI Hate me.....I call, write(snail and email) once a week.
I think maybe they should just limit low much ammo a person can have. For example for use against a home invasion its very easy to see that no one would ever NEED more than several rounds. Why not limit it to something fair like 20 rounds. No one can justify more except the ones who target shoot. If you target shoot ok you can buy boxes of low power rounds maked for target use only if you give an ID and the problem is solved. Anyone wanting a more than 20 regular rounds can pay a special tax .....Sounds good to me.
Why stop there?
No need to fill your gas tank if you only drive 10 miles per day - we'll sell you 2 gallons a day. Buy any more than that, we'll tax the crap out of it.
Why are you buying all of that food? You can't eat that all at once - you need to be taxed on what you buy that you can't eat today.
If you're going to buy any winter clothing in the summertime - sorry, you're gonna have to pay a special tax because you won't need it until it gets cold.
Originally Posted by ShipBoy
"Something fair like 20 rounds"
Fairness is a major consideration in home invasion defense - I know the invader wants to be fair
We believe it is very wise right now to buy your guns and ammo, as much as you can because soon they will most certainly tax the crap out of it. Take a look at the headlines, the writing is on the wall. In Oregon they are going to go after beer, In New York a carton of cigarettes is close to sixty and up, Patterson is talking about an obesity tax. Bottom line, this current crop of government wants your money.
I have read through this string and just about everybody except for one is against limits of ammo. I am not going to point a finger, but man, where are you living? From your comments it sounds like you are stuck behind the Iron Curtain or maybe in England.
If all hell breaks loose in your neck of the woods, would you like to be stuck with only 20 rounds to protect your family. Not me. I do not have the stock of firearms or ammunition that I want, but twenty 20, I surely don't think so. At least 5 and maybe 10 boxes of grade for each weapon would be more like it.
I tote a 40 caliber all of the time. The clip is loaded to the max and I carry two other clips with me. There are five boxes of ammo that is stored in a safe place for that weapon along with extra clips. And now you are going to ask why? Just remember Los Angeles after the Rodney King verdict.
I hate to say this, but I look for something like that to happen in the very near future. I don't want to see it happen, but I do feel that it will. I have already witnessed the attitudes of certain groups of people. So, I am preparing to defend myself and my family, my friends and my property if needed.
I suggest that you crawl back down in that hole you crawled out of, back to your peace and serinity. You are not going to see it above ground.
And before you ask another stupid question (of me), I will go ahead and answer it now. Yes, I am licensed to carry concealed. And at 50 yards, I can be quite deadly with that 40 caliber (shooting 92% kill zone).
Unfortunately, here in Maryland, 'we' cannot purchase a handgun without going through a 'class' on regulations and acquiring an "ID Card" that is numbered, stating that we've had this class.
Now, with that said, there are certain instances that circumvent this 'class'.
A Hunter Safety Class, with a certification date after January 2006.
A 'sworn' Law Enforcement Officer (with ID shown at time of purchase).
A 'retired' LEO (with ID shown at time of purchase).
Or some other 'approved' documention.
We are also limited to one (1) handgun per month.
In Maryland, we do not have any more FTF (Face To Face) sales or transfers between private individuals of handguns or 'restricted' rifles and/or shotguns. (There is a list of these 'evil' firearms.)
Handgun sales (and the other 'evil' firearms) MUST go through an FFL holder, plus, Maryland requires any gunshop that sells handguns to have a "Pistol Traders Permit", over and above the Federal license.
And yes. . . I'm certified. Rifle/Pistol/Shotgun.
As for ammunition. . . no restrictions, yet. And I'll freely admit that for certain calibers, I have in excess of 10,000 rounds. Yes, ten thousand.
Thank goodness for Dillon Precision.
Unfortunately, here in Maryland, 'we' cannot purchase a handgun without going through a 'class' on regulations and acquiring an "ID Card" that is numbered, stating that we've had this class.
Now, with that said, there are certain instances that circumvent this 'class'.
A Hunter Safety Class, with a certification date after January 2006.
A 'sworn' Law Enforcement Officer (with ID shown at time of purchase).
A 'retired' LEO (with ID shown at time of purchase).
Or some other 'approved' documention.
We are also limited to one (1) handgun per month.
In Maryland, we do not have any more FTF (Face To Face) sales or transfers between private individuals of handguns or 'restricted' rifles and/or shotguns. (There is a list of these 'evil' firearms.)
Handgun sales (and the other 'evil' firearms) MUST go through an FFL holder, plus, Maryland requires any gunshop that sells handguns to have a "Pistol Traders Permit", over and above the Federal license.
And yes. . . I'm certified. Rifle/Pistol/Shotgun.
As for ammunition. . . no restrictions, yet. And I'll freely admit that for certain calibers, I have in excess of 10,000 rounds. Yes, ten thousand.
Thank goodness for Dillon Precision.
Just another one of the reasons I escaped from the Peoples Republic....
"The right of citizens to bear arms is just one more guarantee against arbitrary government, and one more safeguard against a tyranny which now appears remote in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible." -Hubert Humphrey-
"SUMMARY AS OF:
1/6/2009--Introduced.
Blair Holt's Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 - Amends the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act to prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a state system certified under this Act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked. Prescribes license application, issuance, and renewal requirements.
I need to read the details. What constitutes "invalidation?"
Originally Posted by hofuf
Prohibits transferring or receiving a qualifying firearm unless the recipient presents a valid firearms license, the license is verified, and the dealer records a tracking authorization number. Prescribes firearms transfer reporting and record keeping requirements. Directs the Attorney General to establish and maintain a federal record of sale system.
Don't we already have a federal record of sale system? But it can't track the "evil" purchases you can make (in most places) off the books, say from your neighbor or at some gun shows.
Originally Posted by hofuf
Prohibits: (1) transferring a firearm to any person other than a licensee, unless the transfer is processed through a licensed dealer in accordance with national instant criminal background check system requirements, with exceptions; (2) a licensed manufacturer or dealer from failing to comply with reporting and record keeping requirements of this Act; (3) failing to report the loss or theft of the firearm to the Attorney General within 72 hours; (4) failing to report to the Attorney General an address change within 60 days; or (5) keeping a loaded firearm, or an unloaded firearm and ammunition for the firearm, knowingly or recklessly disregarding the risk that a child is capable of gaining access, if a child uses the firearm and causes death or serious bodily injury.
I think they should put so much effort into tracking sex offenders, child molesters, and other scum before wringing their hands about any guns I might own.
Originally Posted by hofuf
Prescribes criminal penalties for violations of firearms provisions covered by this Act.
Directs the Attorney General to: (1) establish and maintain a firearm injury information clearinghouse; (2) conduct continuing studies and investigations of firearm-related deaths and injuries; and (3) collect and maintain current production and sales figures of each licensed manufacturer.
Authorizes the Attorney General to certify state firearm licensing or record of sale systems."
And all of this info will be perverted by liberals and the liberal media to make a case to outlaw guns alltogether.
The federal government FUBARed the switch from analog to digital TV, for crying out loud, but it wants more control over gun ownership. All of this should be shot down (pardon the pun).
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